New trend GFE / PSE billing

How many are unhappy with this new trend of charging differing amounts for GFE vs PSE ? I never know what is what and so if I get too carried away in GFE mode I will incur an upcharge? "careful what you lick buddy this will become a PSE session" huh?

It's not a new thing. Upcharging has always been around with the bottom-feeder segment of the provider team.

My opinion is it's like an upcharge for greek. It means the provider really isn't a fan, so I would pass on her. It is even different in there is obviously a way to tell if it's greek or not - PSE vs GFE is a lot more subjective and harder to pin down - does PSE mean no kissing? Bad Acting? or another girl popping out of the closet for some ATM bareback action? Methinks the opportunity to get ripped off is higher.

Some guys are always going to totally think with the little head, so don't expect the practice to go away.

I for one dont mind paying more pse but it has to be harcore

It would be helpful if providers could describe the disparity between the two.

Does PSE include Greek? What about taint licking and tickling? Could I fingerfuck you while I simultaneously perform Greek? Can I shoot my cum in your eye? Would you spit my cum back into my mouth if requested? How many times will you moan my name until I get sick of it?

I don't know either but I just like to say that I do not offer PSE.... I'm not really into the whole fuck me as hard as you can while I scream at the top of my lungs and put on this crazy ass performance like I'm in a porno. I prefer a more sensual real session where we go about it like normal people... Lol like a Girlfriend and a boyfriend not two actors who don't know each other, And are trying to out fuck the other... Lol

And Greek is Greek. my Greek is offered in my all inclusive GFE menu.

I won't even think about seeing a lady who upcharges for this shit. Had one try and tell me CIM was PSE and not GFE. Wanted to take it from $250 to $350. I just laughed and told her I have CIM of every girlfriend I have ever had, so that is GFE to me. If its not to you than I bet you have had some trouble keeping boyfriends once they find out you won't do that for them.

It is up to the the lady if that's how she wants to conduct her business, and I respect that, that's her call. But she just won't get any business from me. I will just call another one. There are way to many ladys that don't treat guys like fools to have to put up with that.

But on the greek issue, I can see where a lady might charge a LITTLE BIT more for that service. There is some extra preperation that goes into offering that and I can understand extra compensation for her troubles. but for sucking a dick. No extra preperation there.

And I like the way you said that Mya, " 2 poeple trying to out fuck the other." That's good shit.

And I like the way you said that Mya, " 2 poeple trying to out fuck the other." That's good shit. Originally Posted by threepeckeredbillygoat

Hehe. Thanks

Mya, once again you show that you have a good head on your shoulders with a very intelligent response. I'm not sure exactly what the difference is between GFE and PSE but I'll take a very sensual true GFE experience any time.

I do understand, however, there are a lot of guys and providers for that matter that really want the "hard fuck" with other "kinky" extras. To each his own.

It all comes back to the definition of PSE. To me the difference has always been in line with the love-making vs fucking perspective, with GFE dealing with the lfk/dfk/iop aspect and PSE leaning more toward ff/bls/tuma/greek/cof, etc. In any event, I tend to agree with mtabsw; if it isn't all-inclusive, I'm not interested. I think it goes with the territory, unless the client is asking for something clearly out of the realm of typical sexual activity. And skirtchaser, I hate to say it, buddy, but you guys are the ones perpetuating the upselling.

Well I don't make love.

Making love is what my girlfriend does while I am fucking the shit out of her.

If that is PSE than so be it. I can handle that. Just don't tell me you are going to charge me more than you already told me it was going to be.

I'm not really into the whole fuck me as hard as you can while I scream at the top of my lungs and put on this crazy ass performance like I'm in a porno. I prefer a more sensual real session where we go about it like normal people... Originally Posted by Mya Michelle

Awww Damn, fucking the shit out of women IS normal to me

Making love is what my girlfriend does while I am fucking the shit out of her. Originally Posted by threepeckeredbillygoat

Sir...may I PLEASE put this in my Sig Line, I'll give you credit for it

Sir...may I PLEASE put this in my Sig Line, I'll give you credit for it Originally Posted by DickEmDown

No problem. Have at her Mr DemD.

Along the same lines....I cringe when I see fetishes extra. What does that mean? I have to pay 100 bucks more for you to tie my hands with a scarf?

I avoid providers with multiple rates for gfe (limited), gfe, pse, fetishes extra. I guess greek would be an exception but I"m not into that so never worried about it.

GFE and PSE should include everything, including BBFS. At least that's the way girlfriends and porn stars do it.

You may be talking about GFE-lite and PSE-lite. Once you start playing games with the service and activity level, it's becomes completely open to interpretation.