Trump again suggests supporters should try to vote twice, ignoring warnings from election officials

HoeHummer's Avatar
What an utter piece of shit!

If yous believe in this ignorant fucking lunatic, yous, not Trump, are the problem.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trump-a...ials-1.5093830

Trump again suggests supporters should try to vote twice, ignoring warnings from election officials


U.S. President Donald Trump suggested to his supporters on Friday night that if they vote by mail they should also attempt to vote in person as a way to check that their vote is counted, which risks causing chaos at the polls and undermining confidence in the election.

In a North Carolina "telerally" Friday night, which was later posted on Facebook, Trump spent the first few minutes of the call explaining in detail how he wanted his voters to vote. If they vote by mail, they should go to their polling place anyway to "see whether or not your mail-in vote has been tabulated or counted," Trump said, noting that if it's been counted, they won't be able to vote.

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It's a federal crime to vote twice in the same election, and it's also a felony in almost every state, including North Carolina.

Trump also addressed the possibility that a voter's mail-in ballot would be tabulated after they had voted in person.

"If it has not been counted, vote -- which is every citizen's right to do -- you go and vote. You press the lever and vote. So if it hasn't been counted, if it doesn't show up, go and vote, and then, if your mail-in ballot arrives after you vote, which it shouldn't but possibly it could perhaps, that ballot will not be used or counted in that your vote has already been cast and tabulated, so this way you're guaranteed to have your vote count," Trump said. "So send it in. And then see and then vote and let's see what happens. You're now assured, though, that your very precious and important vote has been counted."

The call ratchets up Trump's previous insinuations that voters should cast ballots twice, which would be illegal. Such attempts would almost certainly be unsuccessful but could serve to further sow confusion about the election, which has already been upended by the coronavirus pandemic and unprecedented demand for mail-in voting.

In a sign of how widely the president's message was sent, at least one voter in North Carolina heard the telerally after picking up an unsolicited phone call from an unknown number with a 704 area code.

The resident, who had been a registered Republican for more than two decades until they switched to unaffiliated last year, told CNN they were surprised to hear Trump's voice when they picked up their landline phone just before 7 p.m. ET Friday.

The person, who didn't want to be identified, said they had not been expecting the call or for it to be more than half an hour long. The person said that when the president began talking about absentee ballots, they thought maybe he was going to walk back his earlier comments, but that was not the case.

CNN has reached out to the Trump campaign and the North Carolina State Board of Elections about the president's latest remarks.

On Wednesday, Trump first suggested in North Carolina that voters cast their ballots twice to purportedly double-check that their initial votes were counted.

"Well, they'll go out and they'll go vote, and they're going to have to go and check their vote by going to the poll and voting that way, because if it tabulates then they won't be able to do that," Trump said. "So let them send it in, and let them go vote, and if the system is as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated they won't be able to vote, so that's the way it is. And that's what they should do."

In a series of cleanup tweets on Thursday, Trump said Americans should "...go to your Polling Place to see whether or not your Mail In Vote has been Tabulated (Counted). If it has, you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly. If it has not been Counted, VOTE. ..."

Trump's Twitter commentary is legally sound, but doesn't make much sense and is an ineffective way for voters to track their ballots, experts have told CNN. But his remarks contained so much misleading information about election procedures that they were quickly censored by Twitter, and prompted election officials from Michigan and North Carolina, among others, to remind citizens Thursday that voting twice is illegal and they could be prosecuted.

The White House has tried to defend the president's comments suggesting that Americans vote twice, saying Trump "wants enfranchisement" and is simply trying to get Americans to "verify your vote."

"The President does not condone unlawful voting," White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters on Thursday. "The President's been very clear about this."

She claimed the media is "taking the President out of context."

Attorney General William Barr didn't object to Trump's initial implication when asked by CNN's Wolf Blitzer if Trump was encouraging people to commit a crime by voting twice.

"I don't know exactly what he was saying, but it seems to me what he's saying is he's trying to make the point that the ability to monitor this system is not good," Barr said Wednesday. "And if it was so good, if you tried to vote a second time you would be caught if you voted in person."

When Blitzer stated that voting twice that way would be illegal, Barr said he didn't know particular state laws.

Trump has frequently and baselessly assailed mail-in voting as prone to fraud. Several states have expanded their mail-in voting options this year because of the coronavirus pandemic, but the Trump campaign and the Republican Party are fighting several of them in court.

Following Trump's and Barr's comments on Wednesday, Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold warned voters against attempting to vote twice.

"Correcting misinformation about our elections is an important part of the job that I was elected to do by Coloradans," Griswold said in a statement. "2020 has been unprecedented in so many ways, but I never imagined that as Secretary of State I would have to inform both the President and the US Attorney General that it is illegal to vote twice."
the_real_Barleycorn's Avatar
Once again, proof that progressives-socialists have no sense of humor or common sense.

Pass by this wretched person.
the_real_Barleycorn's Avatar
No, I have not read the OP. The title says it all.
Biden will get at least 3 million votes from dead people, so what is the problem here, exactly? .....
LexusLover's Avatar
Biden will get at least 3 million votes from dead people, so what is the problem here, exactly? ..... Originally Posted by 00 gauge
Plus another 11 million from illegal aliens who want free shit.

Speaking of "illegal aliens" and "free shit" ....

..HoeHum won't answer as to who many Bitten ballots he's mailing.
Jacuzzme's Avatar
It’s not that hard to understand what President Trump was talking about, he said it again in Latrobe (The turnout for that event was incredible, miles of traffic in all directions). He didn’t say vote twice, he said make sure your vote by mail, if you’ve done so, was counted and if it wasn’t cast it in person.
rexdutchman's Avatar
Just NO common sense, ( He did not say vote two times) NOT what he said the ignorance is just unbelievable
Fake news
lustylad's Avatar
If you vote by mail, there is a greater risk your vote will be lost or ruled ineligible.

That's a fact.

History and experience show that a higher percentage of mail-in ballots don't get counted compared to votes made in person at a polling booth.

By encouraging everyone to vote by mail rather than in person, the dim-retards are knowingly SUPPRESSING their votes!

So my question is - why are the dim-retards so hell-bent on suppressing the vote in this election??

I mean... isn't that supposed to be something they always accuse Republicans of doing??
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
trumps comments are being twisted out of context. they know that is not what he meant.

vote by mail,
check your status of your mail vote,
if mail vote doesn't show up as received,
vote in person.

20% of the mail gets lost during processing and may show up weeks after the fact.
And some people still don't believe that trump is a fkn idiot
And some people still don't believe that trump is a fkn idiot Originally Posted by Tsmokies
In regards to you...you leave no doubt
Why_Yes_I_Do's Avatar
I'm from Chicago, so it's all good...
LexusLover's Avatar
I'm from Chicago, so it's all good... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Yea, just ask JFK.

Traditionally, the DNC has always gotten the vast majority of the dead voters.
HoeHummer's Avatar
Yea, just ask JFK.

Traditionally, the DNC has always gotten the vast majority of the dead voters. Originally Posted by LexusLover
Didn’t yous hang out with JFK before anybody else on this forum was,born, Lexie.

Yous must have had a chance to ask him for yourself.

Wha did he say?