Define PSE...

So I hunt down PSE adventrues to say the least. Unfortunately there are too many times that a providers version of PSE is more GFE or just overall vanilla. So I will leave it to the board. Providers what makes you PSE and hobbyist what do you expect from a PSE provider? I expect bbbj that is sloppy and spitty, TUMA (not a hard req), Greek (also not hard req) , aggressive attitude, dirty talk and the ability to make me feel like you're trying to get every drop out of me because you want it as bad as I do! Alot of providers should spend 1 day with Yummy or Mz.Luvly to see what true PSE looks like lol! Anyhow hope to see some interesting convo here!

Lol

I think GFE definition is fairly well agreed upon: BBBJ, L/D FK, DATY/O, MSOG in an hour or more, and maybe another item or two someone may prefer.

PSE, in my opinion is more case by case. I may call FF, SS, big IOP, TUMA a good PSE session, while others may require Greek, swinging from chandeliers, toys, videos, etc.

I upcharge for chandelier swinging, but not for the reasons one might think...

I think GFE definition is fairly well agreed upon: BBBJ, L/D FK, DATY/O, MSOG in an hour or more, and maybe another item or two someone may prefer.

PSE, in my opinion is more case by case. I may call FF, SS, big IOP, TUMA a good PSE session, while others may require Greek, swinging from chandeliers, toys, videos, etc. Originally Posted by tbone77494

I would say there are levels of PSE.

But at a minimum a PSE should feature:

BBBJ with DT/Spit/Sloppy/Look up eyes
CFS in any desired position
Hair pulling, either in BBBJ or CFS
Russian if requested
Sloppy kissing if requested

And 1 hardcore selection:

Greek
Tuma
Slapping
Spitting
Restraint/domination
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If you aren't at least doing the minimum and aren't offering some hardcore, what you are doing is not pse. It's just run of the mill gfe.

Now, what I call "True" PSE offers almost everything. And maybe what you'd term "ultimate" "no holds barred" pse has no limits.

http://pherotruth.com/Thread-Ladies-...ce-in-10-steps

In that link they assume all men will go down in their girlfriend or wives.

I think more than an activity pornstar sex is a state of mind or attitude one must exude.

Woo Hoo!!!!

Woo Hoo!!!! Originally Posted by boardman

You must be running from my Throat Punch heh

Here Kitty Kitty.... No session is PSE without a throat punch...

Speaking of punch...DON'T drink the yellow Kool-Aid!

So I hunt down PSE adventrues to say the least. Unfortunately there are too many times that a providers version of PSE is more GFE or just overall vanilla. So I will leave it to the board. Providers what makes you PSE and hobbyist what do you expect from a PSE provider? I expect bbbj that is sloppy and spitty, TUMA (not a hard req), Greek (also not hard req) , aggressive attitude, dirty talk and the ability to make me feel like you're trying to get every drop out of me because you want it as bad as I do! Alot of providers should spend 1 day with Yummy or Mz.Luvly to see what true PSE looks like lol! Anyhow hope to see some interesting convo here! Originally Posted by brimac

Besides what has already been mentioned.
May I add...A good grip of hair pulling, mutual light playful submission with raunchy verbal demands

Oh the list goes on and on, but most importantly, grasping for air as a start to a finish

...A good grip of hair pulling, mutual light playful submission with raunchy verbal demands

Oh the list goes on and on, but most importantly, grasping for air as a start to a finish Originally Posted by Italia DiBella

Daamn.....

Soo...is CIM PSE or GFE?

http://pherotruth.com/Thread-Ladies-...ce-in-10-steps Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

This list is horrendous.

Soo...is CIM PSE or GFE? Originally Posted by p98397

Both, but I would say more gfe. COF is PSE.