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Dam NOLA is in the top five. What do ya think Dilbert, would ya say that's accurate? Chicago is 24th, I would think Chicago would be higher on the list. Originally Posted by Levianon17I'm not sure of which table in the FBI statistics from which year was used for this, but it's most likely per capita so I'd think it could very well be accurate.
I'm not sure of which table in the FBI statistics from which year was used for this, .... Originally Posted by eccieloverThe "FBI statistics" are based on local reporting and are only as good as the local LE complete the reporting forms in a timely manner. There is an interest of local governments to under report and/or erroneously report events involving criminal activity for a number of reasons, not the least of which is to demonstrate a "low crime" area to entice people to live there and to demonstrate how effective local LE is in "fighting crime"!
The "FBI statistics" are based on local reporting and are only as good as the local LE complete the reporting forms in a timely manner. There is an interest of local governments to under report and/or erroneously report events involving criminal activity for a number of reasons, not the least of which is to demonstrate a "low crime" area to entice people to live there and to demonstrate how effective local LE is in "fighting crime"!The double edge problem of statistics.
BTW: I've seen DA's from rural communities under report "not guilties" as a lower offense, when the indictment was of a higher offense to make it look good on the books ... until they lost the case, then they wanted to minimize their loss!
Judges often refer to it as "over-charging" .... we've seen some of that recently in the news when the prosecution wants headlines and to scare defendants into pleas.
On another level the results of the violence are often "made into murders" by a slow EMS response to a shooting, and not "on purpose" it's just the "standard" response for that community or neighborhood as the case may be. In defense of EMS they are often not allowed into a scene of a shooting until LE is reasonably certain that the threat has been neutralized. There was a comparative study years ago between Washington DC and St. Louis. There were actually more shootings in St. Louis than DC, but fewer murders in St. Louis. An undercover reporter discovered that the EMS response time to shootings in St. Louis was much better than in D.C. Originally Posted by LexusLover
The "FBI statistics" are based on local reporting and are only as good as the local LE complete the reporting forms in a timely manner. There is an interest of local governments to under report and/or erroneously report events involving criminal activity for a number of reasons, not the least of which is to demonstrate a "low crime" area to entice people to live there and to demonstrate how effective local LE is in "fighting crime"!Yes, statistics are a dangerous thing when they have too many "subjective" moving parts.
BTW: I've seen DA's from rural communities under report "not guilties" as a lower offense, when the indictment was of a higher offense to make it look good on the books ... until they lost the case, then they wanted to minimize their loss!
Judges often refer to it as "over-charging" .... we've seen some of that recently in the news when the prosecution wants headlines and to scare defendants into pleas.
On another level the results of the violence are often "made into murders" by a slow EMS response to a shooting, and not "on purpose" it's just the "standard" response for that community or neighborhood as the case may be. In defense of EMS they are often not allowed into a scene of a shooting until LE is reasonably certain that the threat has been neutralized. There was a comparative study years ago between Washington DC and St. Louis. There were actually more shootings in St. Louis than DC, but fewer murders in St. Louis. An undercover reporter discovered that the EMS response time to shootings in St. Louis was much better than in D.C. Originally Posted by LexusLover
Dam NOLA is in the top five. What do ya think Dilbert, would ya say that's accurate? Chicago is 24th, I would think Chicago would be higher on the list. Originally Posted by Levianon17