When No Show Reviews are moved to CoEd it seems

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When No Show Reviews are moved to CoEd it seems that there is no regard for ROS details being openly discussed.

Shouldn't staff show the same diligence in regards to these threads as any other thread where private information, not meant to be read or discussed publicly?

Perhaps a better practice would be to lock the review in place and PM direction to the OP to start a thread in the proper place.

We certainly want to get the information out but read ANY NCNS review thread moved to CoEd and you find open discussion of information never meant, by design, for the public eye....

Admittedly in MOST the information in the ROS is not of a nature that it shouldn't be discussed but that should NOT be left for the discretion of the membership.

Personally, I think the practice of moving NCNS reviews to Coed simply offers a level of protection and gives benefit of the doubt to the provider and detracts from the reporting system.

I asked the question of about 10 guys how they search for info on a girl and they search the review section. If a gal has reviews pop up there and they never search other forums they never see the negativity that MAY/PROBABLY would color their decision to see the girl.
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  • Qziz
  • 05-30-2012, 11:14 AM
When I do a search for research I search the entire Austin sub-forum (usually by the woman's last 4 digits in her number or her email address) specifically to catch discussion outside the reviews...
The answers that the OP seeks are located here:

http://www.eccie.net/forumdisplay.php?f=577

Spacemtn
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Whispers's Avatar
I actually posted it here as well in order to encourage more discussion of the subject.
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it doesn't seem to be a big enough issue to warrant discussion.. does anyone really care? it's been this way forever.. hasn't been an issue nor a problem that bothers anyone it seems.
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How can there be ROS info when it was a no-show ???
budman33's Avatar
I actually posted it here as well in order to encourage more discussion of the subject. Originally Posted by Whispers
Perhaps you are indeed encouraging more discussion, or maybe you just didn't like the answer you already received.
Whispers's Avatar
wasn't that at all....

Still have no life huh? Still want to follow me around?

pathetic....
Tatonka's Avatar
Personally I would like for there to be a separate section just for ncns experiences.
Once they get moved to coed they kinda get lost and I don't think they belong in the alerts section.

Regarding the ROS information being discussed openly, that is a common issue wherever private comments are posted. There are only two mods (but two good mods) to cover all the Austin section which has a lot of private comments to police.

Something that anybody can do to help keep private comments private is to report any open discussion of restricted information to the mods via the "report to mods" button contained in every post.

I think keeping ROS information and private comments private is the responsibility of the eccie Austin community and the mods need the community's help to do so.
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wasn't that at all....

Still have no life huh? Still want to follow me around?

pathetic.... Originally Posted by Whispers

sorry your not that interesting. I was replying to your post for open discussion. But it is apparent AS FUCKING USUAL that it is just you bloviating because your always right and further opinions are unnecessary unless they are to agree with yours..

You do realize a discussion is when more than one person speaks right?

as for private ROS comments. I think they are misnamed. They aren't private just as soon as you post them. Anyone with 20 dollars can read them. The better term is restricted to paying members. No ones privacy has ever been violated as they gave that up when they clicked SUBMIT.
Rand Al'Thor's Avatar
sorry your not that interesting. I was replying to your post for open discussion. But it is apparent AS FUCKING USUAL that it is just you bloviating because your always right and further opinions are unnecessary unless they are to agree with yours..

You do realize a discussion is when more than one person speaks right?

as for private ROS comments. I think they are misnamed. They aren't private just as soon as you post them. Anyone with 20 dollars can read them. The better term is restricted to paying members. No ones privacy has ever been violated as they gave that up when they clicked SUBMIT. Originally Posted by budman33
If he's not that interesting, why the need to reply to all of his threads? Your dic
tion indicates that you're harboring some feelings, either intense hatred or the
need to suckle on his nutsack. Reminds me of the phrase, "Hell hath no wrath
like a woman scorned."

As for your opinions on ROS, you do know that ROS stands for Rest of the
Story? The name does not imply privacy, so it's not misnamed, even by your
opinion. Now, private tags, on the other hand, would be better said to be
misnamed. As for breach of privacy, most of us know the truth of security.
In fact, the original post mentions "ROS details being openly discussed" and
"where private information, not meant to be read or discussed publicly".
Again, the point is that, while most know that it is not private, many post in
private or ROS because we do not want open discussion from those who do
not have premium access. That is changed when the review is moved.

Regardless of leaks, $20 purchase of premium access, writing phony reviews
with a fake account, the guidelines here and mods are charged with protecting
the integrity of privileged information within this site. When information
contained in private tags are discussed openly, mods usually step in to correct
the mistake. Moving a review to CoEd or another section where the ROS
integrity is not kept is contrary to those efforts and should be rethought.

There were some mentions that if no session occurred, then there is no ROS
information. ROS, to me, doesn't imply only activities that happened during the
session. Many outline details of TCB prior to session or other information the
poster wants discussion restricted to premium access.

Personally, aside from the issue of being able to shed the linking of the (non)
review to a providers' profile, if a review is moved, I think the ROS section should
have private tags around it.
Whispers's Avatar
Rand covers it pretty well...... Whether the Original Poster of the NCNS has put it in the right area or not the ROS information is NOT meant to be viewed or commented on anyone WITHOUT premium access.....

THAT is a part of the problem IMO...

I've quoted some of the other exchange here..... to address that occurred in the other thread and there is another problem most appear to be unaware of....



Since it was a NCNS of some sort or in the event that no activities took place, there is really no Rest of the Story to protect.

The ROS is restricted so Private Access members can see intimate details of the Hobbiest's session as he recounts them. Since nothing happend in the "Reviews" that are moved to Coed, then there are no details and nothing to protect.

As many times as this has been discussed here and other places, one would think that we all understand that a Review is written ONLY when a session (good or bad) actually takes place. All other threads should (like NCNS, or bad info so hobbiest left before session started, etc) should be in Coed.

Spacemtn
AustinModStaff Originally Posted by Spacemtn
I understand... and you understand but shouldn't the person writing the review have the same right to privacy that the remarks in ROS guarantees?

We correct the behavior of reviewers in the forum on all the other things they do wrong.

There is no warning or information in the rules that would indicate that if you mistakenly use the review form to report something that it will get moved to another area.

What purpose does MOVING the review serve?

Sure it facilitates discussion but it eliminates the intent of the reviewer which is a warning.

Why not move it to the Alerts Section?

I don't have figures but I would bet if it as measured that the vast majority of searches for information about a provider occurs in the reviews section, alerts section and locker room...... and that Coed would rank very low.... Originally Posted by Whispers
As often as we have heard the discussion, haven't we also heard of how the whole buildup to the session, the flirty emails, the texts exchanged, telephone calls etc build the anticipation and are reviewed as if part of the session?


Seems to be for those guys that have that romantic approach to it all that they probably are looking for bell#2 when the lady opens the door.... so couldn't they rightfully believe that the whole GFE experience had already started? Originally Posted by Whispers
Perhaps another thing that many don't realize is that if it starts in the Review Forum, then it comes up in the Mods Review page for "Moderation" and then assignment. Moving it to Coed does not change that fact, so if you are thinking that by moving the Review that was not really a Review to Coed that it is not searchable, think again.

It also doesn't belong in Alerts is defines as follows:
Alerts - Austin Issues which could endanger the safety of a member or members of our community go here. Please reserve this space for legitimate alerts, and not general FYI material.
Issues which could endanger the safety of a member or members of our community go here. Please reserve this space for legitimate alerts, and not general FYI material


NCNS doesn't necessarily create a situation where a member is "endangered".

Ultimately, Staff has decided that this is how we handle "Reviews" that are not Reviews because a session never took place. There have been many calls in the National Forums for a NCNS Forum. Maybe we will see such a Forum in the future.

Spacemtn
AustinModStaff Originally Posted by Spacemtn
Neither do situations where a provider is not paid for services rendered or some guy redirects them as a prank to the wrong door

We have an alert viewed 4300 times with 48 comments about a guy that left his watch behind and called the lady after the fact.

Is your time worth money to you? When you wast an hour of it driving somewhere getting stood up and returning do you feel "ripped off"?

We use alerts for a lot of things....


Maybe we need a Forum called "I'm really pissed off about this person and I can't post it anywhere else but they let me post it here forum!"

Hell... You could move a lot of threads about ME there!
Originally Posted by Whispers
A search of "Amber Rain" (with or without capital letters) in Austin yields the following

http://www.eccie.net/search.php?searchid=15974689

As you can see the NCNS report is mysteriously missing and her reputation remains unmarred.

It did not matter what forum I searched. It is not coming up as a result.
Originally Posted by Whispers

Now THAT is a problem because ANYONE searching for information on this provider does NOT see teh NEGATIVE information brought forward by the NCNS post that was removed FROM the Review Forum to CoEd.

It seems to simply "disappear" from search indexing for some reason.....

I RTMed that and suggested a programmer take a look at it.
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If he's not that interesting, why the need to reply to all of his threads? Your dic
tion indicates that you're harboring some feelings, either intense hatred or the
need to suckle on his nutsack. Reminds me of the phrase, "Hell hath no wrath
like a woman scorned." Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor
wow, sorry, I reply to very little of his ramblings these days. To the rest of YOUR ramblings the best I have is a fuck you. seriously. I am allowed an opinion.. oh wait.. no I am not apparently.
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Rand Al'Thor's Avatar
wow, sorry, I reply to very little of his ramblings these days. To the rest of YOUR ramblings the best I have is a fuck you. seriously. I am allowed an opinion.. oh wait.. no I am not apparently. Originally Posted by budman33
I thought the rest of my ramblings were fair and logical discussion of the topic of this thread. What about my "ramblings" suggest that you are not allowed to have an opinion. It seems to me, if anyone around here has a problem with others expressing an opinion other than their own, it is you.

If "fuck you" is the best you have, I'll have to turn your offer down. I usually like to have a bit of conversation with my girls before bending them over, and it sounds like you'll be lacking in conversation.