They are "guidelines"... NOT rules....
Except for certain "nuclear violations" before A MOD takes action in regards to a guideline they need to consider the overall situation and all members participation in what's going one.
Some members bring shit down on themselves and when they do they seldom get any reprieve from the self-moderating nature the boards also posses. Originally Posted by whispers
i disagree. There's a certain group that constantly shits on anyone they don't agree with.Are you and others capable of taking an honest look at things? Because if you do I believe you will have a pretty long list of people that are guilty of regular and flagrant violations of guidelines.
Do you consider me one of those? Because I certain disagree with you but do not tend to shit on you.
It really needs to end. If the guidelines for decorum are so loosely followed or enforced.... its just sort of sad. Everyone knows it.
But have you looked around at really how many are guilty of it? Or just the ones you tend to disagree with?
But let the circle jerk continue.
and there is little "self-moderating" ... self appointed moderating is more accurate and rarely close to never even gets close the guidelines as they were written by the owners. Originally Posted by budman33
Take a look through recent threads for those that tend to disagree with me and repeatedly post responses. Read the nature of those responses and apply the very same guidelines you are complaining about not enforcing to them and others.
There are a few handles here that seem obviously created for the soul reason of following me around commenting and I believe if you and others were to apply the same "letter of the law" analysis of the guidelines that you want enforced against a few here to everyone you would see a lot more violations.
I enjoy a lively debate at times and over the years I have seen many members "lose it" and get personal in the nature of their remarks leading to accumulating points and eventually getting themselves banned. There was a time when a good debate yielded multiple bans.
But as the board grew in numbers over the years so did the workload on the MODs in regards to housekeeping tasks and the nature of heated discussions seemed to lose out along the way. Members got into the habit of hitting each other pretty hard with the insults.
I truthfully lodged the same complaint you have raised a little over a year ago as I felt many of the players in several threads should have earned some timeouts along the way but were being let run rampant.
How fair can you and a few others crying out for guidelines to be enforced in applying those guidelines?
Here is a challenge to you and those others.....
1) Set aside what you THINK you know about me or my motivations as well as that of others in that group you feel are the reasons for all the problems.
2) Pick a few threads I've started or posted to a few times in the first couple of pages and read through it making a list of what you perceive to be violations based on what you read and not on who is making the post and what you might think their motivation is.
3) Bring that summary back here and summarize all the offenders by offense and how many offenses in a post to this thread.
In doing so pay attention to which members immediately attack others in a personal manner and compare it to how long it takes others being attacked to respond in same.
I am interested in seeing just how fair your eye is as well as what you see as offenses and how those outside a few should be handled in regards to the guidelines. I would be interested in seeing the others making a similar plea as yours try the same challenge.
If you and others will seriously take that challenge up and do so here in this thread I will join you in a frank discussion of the problem minus any and all name calling.
