Question about GFE and PSE

I'm sure there are threads about this but I am really really new to this awesome site and still trying to learn how to navigate through it lol. Just want to know if there is really a difference between GFE and PSE. I don't believe in labels but I get that question alot, am I gfe or pse? If I say I'm gfe they say well you offer toys for boys, strap on play etc so you're totally pse. Then I get those that say you're not pse because I don't do alot of the extreme stuff lol. So with me being new I thought I would ask those that surely may know more about this than I. I just like to FUCK, SUCK and PLEASE so if there's a label for that then that's ME lol. Thanks so much in advance for any positive feedback I may receive.

I am sure there are those who will disagree, but I think the simplest definition is GFE = has the illusion that you are on a date with a girlfriend with whom you are getting intimate, kissing, hugging, oral, whatever feels good and natural.
PSE = the two of you are making a porno, different and unusual positions might be involved, toys and or role playing.

There aren't any standard definitions. Although I think most of us would go with kissing and cuddling as being part of a GFE, it gets blurry after that. I think, for example, that CIM is something that girlfriends do (at least that's what my friends used to tell me), but others say that that's part of a PSE. Shrug. I've always felt that a GFE is an appointment during and after which I could almost believe that she'd be spending or have spent that time with me even if I hadn't brought my friend Benjamin. In other words, it's an attitude not an act or series of acts, that define GFE.

Most (but not all) would say that GFE includes DFK, BBBJ, DATY and CFS, all delivered with what we call the Illusion of Passion (IOP).

PSE includes all the other wild porn star stuff.

Butt sex, it's all about butt sex.

I ignore the description as it seems to have absolutely no consistency. I look for specific things/acts. There are too many ads from providers that say they are very open minded and PSE, except for Greek, CIM, DFK, BBFS, sometimes even no BBBJ. Just list what you don't do or do's and dont's and reviews will take care of the rest of the details.

I am sure there are those who will disagree, but I think the simplest definition is GFE = has the illusion that you are on a date with a girlfriend with whom you are getting intimate, kissing, hugging, oral, whatever feels good and natural.
PSE = the two of you are making a porno, different and unusual positions might be involved, toys and or role playing. Originally Posted by mmcqtx

Yep! I think you nailed those two definitions pretty well

In my opinion, for many terms including those 2, there have become so many definitions that there is no definition. And the terms have become useless.

If they are asked and discussed, for clarity they need to be defined in that conversation.

Torito

Girl....I'm just waiting for the day you add Greek to the menu! ��

So hear this all you horn dogs....

"I GOT DIBS!!!!!"

The difference between GFE and PSE? about 100 bucks.

But really, definitions are all over the place and each person will have their own idea.

every answer given so far has nuggets of truth.. none will totally define each, because there is no right answer.

the best answer to a Provider is be all that you can be.. like the Army ads say.. GFE, PSE.. you can be both.

and you will make more money, and we will be happier.