When Clients Change

I think I mentioned this before somewhere but have recently had another bout -

When I started Leah Ireland a few years ago I met with a client who for a long time was just the loveliest man. European, charming, we always went to the best places and had the best times. I thought for a while he was a friend, then I thought not.

A year or so ago he was very badly behaved and I started speaking to him. He sent me a pretty simple sorry note and that was it. A couple of months ago he called me and was more profusely apologetic, we met up a few more times and had a wonderful time. Then last time, after we'd had a wonderful time at great restaurants then I took him to more personal hangouts of mine that I never take clients to (and he absolutely adored), he was unpleasant again. So that is finally it.

To get to my question - I think the deterioration in his character has been catalyzed by his financial pressures. That's no excuse, but I think that's it.

Have other ladies been finding as part of their work they've had to be dealing with the effects of financial pressures on their clients? Above and beyond what was going on before?

Personally in addition to this I've been finding that clients have become a lot more unreliable because of pressures on their time.

Have other ladies been finding as part of their work they've had to be dealing with the effects of financial pressures on their clients? Above and beyond what was going on before?

Personally in addition to this I've been finding that clients have become a lot more unreliable because of pressures on their time. Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

Anyone that has a high pressure job may have it affect his attitude. However, I find that a healthy person doesn't take out their frustration on people unrelated to the cause. They may talk about it with me. I don't mind if a gent is in a bad mood in general, as long as none of his bad mood is targeted directly at me. The moment that happens, I start to reconsider future engagements. It's a bad habit, and it's not one I'm going to take emotional energy out of my life to help them change. Time together is suppose to be a break from that which is causing them stress, not a chance to use a date as an emotional punching bag.

A change in a gents behaviour when given glimpses of your personal life, for example, to places that are personal haunts, introducing him to friends etc...This can be a wonderful bonding experience with someone you trust. However, the rare time it can end with snarky behaviour. I suspect in part because they are now *too* comfortable. Or because they have a sense that having opened up to him, the lady somehow owes him *more*.

I don't feel you should make excuses for his bad behaviour. If you were treated poorly, no rational is good enough.

I don't feel you should make excuses for his bad behaviour. If you were treated poorly, no rational is good enough. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

She was not asking you that. She was asking if any other ladies had run into this lately. Pretty simple question. I really doubt that Leah needs advice on how to handle a client(s).

To get to my question - I think the deterioration in his character has been catalyzed by his financial pressures. That's no excuse, but I think that's it.

Have other ladies been finding as part of their work they've had to be dealing with the effects of financial pressures on their clients? Above and beyond what was going on before?

. Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

She was not asking you that. She was asking if any other ladies had run into this lately. Pretty simple question. I really doubt that Leah needs advice on how to handle a client(s). Originally Posted by WTF

Thank goodness we have you here to correct anyone who goes astray from an OP's query.

I have to agree with WTF.

I'm sure Leah is capable of speaking for herself. If she has a grievance regarding my words, she will post it. Preemptive white knighting seems silly. There's no use in guessing what someone else will like or dislike.

And like most, my responses may wander, but I'm not totally going off topic. It is a "discussion" board. So rather than criticize my post, why not just post what you have to say regarding leah's post?

I'm not going to apologize for being a stream of conscious writer.

She was not asking you that. She was asking if any other ladies had run into this lately. Pretty simple question. I really doubt that Leah needs advice on how to handle a client(s). Originally Posted by WTF

Ass-kissing/s--t-eating has never been part of who I am. Expensive, but worth the price!

Hey Naomi, I had to laugh at your signature. But isn't it easy to get anyone to say anything, just quite a different matter to experience them doing it?

Especially these days...

Ass-kissing/s--t-eating has never been part of who I am. Expensive, but worth the price! Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

I doubt many of us do too much ass kissing in this business. Part of our job is to choose dates that we are compatible with. If that is done, personalities fall into place and ass kissing isn't needed.

Since when did this forum's discussion become so rigid? I really don't understand why y'all felt the need to treat Lauren so negatively.

Thank goodness we have you here to correct anyone who goes astray from an OP's query. Originally Posted by SR Only

I wasn't trying to correct Lauren. I was hoping to get a straight answer to what I thought to be an interesting question.

I know I can have a shorter fuse when fretting over money.

I'm sure Leah is capable of speaking for herself. If she has a grievance regarding my words, she will post it. Preemptive white knighting seems silly. There's no use in guessing what someone else will like or dislike.

. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

I was not guessing. It was a simple question. Read Leah response:

Absolutely Right WTF!... Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

And like most, my responses may wander, but I'm not totally going off topic. It is a "discussion" board. So rather than criticize my post, why not just post what you have to say regarding leah's post?

I'm not going to apologize for being a stream of conscious writer. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

I did not criticize your post IMHO, I could care less if you want to babble to your hearts content on any number of subjects that have nothing to do with the original question but all I did was point out the fact that you did not answer the question.

I was hoping other might not be so self consumed and try and at least answer it. Yes I do realize every thread drifts, I was interested in answers before this one did. If you and Ansley's answers are any indication of things to come it appears the question will go unanswered.

I doubt many of us do too much ass kissing in this business. Part of our job is to choose dates that we are compatible with. If that is done, personalities fall into place and ass kissing isn't needed.

. Originally Posted by Ansley

Had you and Lauren understood the orginial question, you would not have to assume such silliness. She did select correctly. The man changed due to what Leah thought was $$$ pressure.

Is that really so hard to understand?

Since when did this forum's discussion become so rigid? I really don't understand why y'all felt the need to treat Lauren so negatively. Originally Posted by Ansley

Since when did I have to treat a grown woman like a two year old?

Lauren appeared to be confused as to the question or she just chose not to answer it.

I tried to point her in the right direction. Since when is that a sin?
I did not expect a, "Thank you WTF" from Summerhill but I sure as hell did not expect you and Lauren's snarly reaction to my simple explaination as to the question.

I guess I could have said,

"Great answer Lauren. While I have ya here have you noticed any extra pressure on men of late that may be attributed to $$$$$$$$ pressure."

Hey Naomi, I had to laugh at your signature. But isn't it easy to get anyone to say anything, just quite a different matter to experience them doing it?

Especially these days... Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

Hahahaa! Yup!

Have other ladies been finding as part of their work they've had to be dealing with the effects of financial pressures on their clients? Above and beyond what was going on before?

Personally in addition to this I've been finding that clients have become a lot more unreliable because of pressures on their time. Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

That must have been scary for you. In what way was he unpleasant? You don't have to share but I am a bit curious.

Fortunately for me, I have never had to deal with that. I've never been shorted and have never had a client talk to me in a negative way. While I enjoyed helping a client during a difficult time, I would not spend time with one that was nasty, negative or unpleasant BCD. The first time would have been it for me.

That must have been scary for you. In what way was he unpleasant? You don't have to share but I am a bit curious.

Fortunately for me, I have never had to deal with that. I've never been shorted and have never had a client talk to me in a negative way. While I enjoyed helping a client during a difficult time, I would not spend time with one that was nasty, negative or unpleasant BCD. The first time would have been it for me. Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Yes but from her post it was a longer term client that had been nothing but proper before.

She thought it was because of $$$ issues and was asking if any other ladies had noticed that form of pressure. I sure notice it in certain folks I have dealt with in the past and assume/know I sometimes have a shorter fuse, especially around those I have become comfy with.

So I am mindful of it when others are under the gun and cut more slack to them. But thats just me. Not all rudness comes from the same place.

Yes but from her post it was a longer term client that had been nothing but proper before.

She thought it was because of $$$ issues and was asking if any other ladies had noticed that form of pressure.

I sure notice it in certain folks I have dealt with in the past and assume/know I sometimes have a shorter fuse, especially around those I have become comfy with. Originally Posted by WTF

When did you become an escort, WTF?

..........just kidding...

Yeah even with a longer client, they only get one chance with me. That is why I asked her what he did that was so unpleasant. It really does depend on what he did.

I think I mentioned this before somewhere but have recently had another bout -

When I started Leah Ireland a few years ago I met with a client who for a long time was just the loveliest man. European, charming, we always went to the best places and had the best times. I thought for a while he was a friend, then I thought not.

A year or so ago he was very badly behaved and I started speaking to him. He sent me a pretty simple sorry note and that was it. A couple of months ago he called me and was more profusely apologetic, we met up a few more times and had a wonderful time. Then last time, after we'd had a wonderful time at great restaurants then I took him to more personal hangouts of mine that I never take clients to (and he absolutely adored), he was unpleasant again. So that is finally it.

To get to my question - I think the deterioration in his character has been catalyzed by his financial pressures. That's no excuse, but I think that's it.

Have other ladies been finding as part of their work they've had to be dealing with the effects of financial pressures on their clients? Above and beyond what was going on before?

Personally in addition to this I've been finding that clients have become a lot more unreliable because of pressures on their time. Originally Posted by Leah Ireland

His financial pressures are not the reason for his poor behavior towards you, not entirely anyway. I think it goes deeper. Your relationship with him could be a little bit above the norm. You have invited him into your personnal life sort of speak, by taking him to your personal hangouts as you put it. Every guy wants a great girl to be with. Someone that he can connect with, to love. To put it to you simply, he may have feelings for you above what is tolerable for the escort client relationship. I think he could feel a bit confused on how he should handle his feelings towards you, so instead he lashes out to supress them. Just what I think anyway.