Wing Women?

I know when I have a smart and beautiful woman in my presence talking to me, I feel like I could have any other lady in the place and suddenly my approach anxiety seem to disappear.

Considering the standard disclosure about money being for time, has anyone thought of or tried some kind of wing woman deal.

Just shooting from the hip it would sound something like provider and client plan to meet, maybe on a slow night of while their "visitor" is in town, at a bar or other location chosen to as a good hunting ground for civie action. They agree on some kind of rate, like 100 for an hour or or so, but drinks are on the client. The whole meeting is to have a good time, but mainly to work on ways the client could pickup an attractive civie. Perhaps add a sizable 100-200 tip to the provider to motivate her to motivate and encourage him, should the client take home an attractive civie.

There could also be some kind of provision put in place for further client/provider activity should the hunt come up dry at a pre agreed rate.

It seems if both parties were smart about this, they could come out ahead. Turn down time into money, and invest in pickup skills instead of a one time nut.

Or maybe I'm crazy I had a few drinks.

I recall years ago about a local company who would hire out wing women. I believe their rate was $50 an hour.

I recall years ago about a local company who would hire out wing women. I believe their rate was $50 an hour. Originally Posted by S-Man

I saw those girls in action. Didn't work for the guys at all.

Now that I'm little more clear headed, I see how it could workbut there could be some problems. However, I think a smart client/provider could work around some of these issues.

I did some research last night after posting and found there actually is a service kinda like this, but it seems horrible. The rules they place on the situation and the harsh penalty read like they are out to scam the guy. The difference I think is that I think a provider is more apt to care about whether a client is enjoying his time. I also believe that being able to pick a particular provider to help you, maybe one that you've already had good convo and rapport which would give her better insight as to how to help her client, since it seems most wingwoman services assign a girl to you.

I think the biggest part though is that they don't have a provision for a success bonus.

I'm also not so sure that the regular wing woman really has the clients best interests at heart, unless she used to be a provider. I imagine they see it as a way to get paid to goto a bar and have free drinks with getting hit on and the idea of helping a guy pickup a girl like them could easily twist the mind of a weaker woman, causing her to resent the client she is supposed to be helping. Then where is the motivation to really help, instead of sabotaging the client?

Maybe I'm paranoid but i figure a provider has a more mature view of the casual sex game, and since they seem to be more attentive to their client's desires, and are more used to trying to make them happy.

Well that explains why I didn't get any reply notifications, it appears I was still logged into my buddies account when I showed him this place last night.

I've always picked up more HOT chicks when I've had HOT chicks with me, period... Hot strippers always attract other hot chicks or it offends them. I'm not too sure about providers though.

I used to only hang out with strippers when I lived in Austin and it brought tons of constant attention.

That's a good part of my thinking, but do you think the other girls know the difference between another civie, stripper or a provider? Plus I think it would help to have a bubbly relaxing coach to boost your mood. My biggest problem has always been approach, since I never went to a party school, and my wingmen are as bad as I am.

I just like to solve problems and this seems like a different way.

Imagine this scenario.

You're at a nice bar you haven't been to before, three quarters through your first drink. You notice three ladies walk in dressed in business casual. You notice a stolen glance from the most attractive of the group. The lady sitting next to you notices. Shaken, you feign disinterest, but its too late. The lady next to you leans in close, barely exposing the lacey top to her dark stockings, through the slit down the side of her scarlet red dress. She is so close to your ear, you can feel the heat from her lips long before her breath, but that's when she says it. "You look great, you are the sexiest man in here tonight, so go get her," she hisses. "Now" she adds, adding emphasis to her demand. You stand from your stool and turn to the young business woman, when you hear her voice again, this time in your other ear but slightly from behind. She runs one arm behind you caressing you until her hand finds your butt where it rests just for the shortest moment, while her other hand runs up your front pulling you closer for the point she is about to make. You almost miss what she says this time, which would've been a tragedy, because in this moment coiled around you is when she delivers the ultimatum in a voice so low its almost inaudible. "You better fuck her good tonight," her hand grabs your ass very firmly before she continues, "or you will have to answer to me." In a swift move she uncoils and turns back to her drink, or maybe to the sexy bartender as if you were never there. It doesn't matter, you've gotten your mission, and you won't fail.

You think women don't notice the hot woman who is way out of place with the guy she's with?

Wing women work but they have to actually know you.

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Of course FWP, That is a very real very valid point. I was just kicking the idea around, and seeing what came of it. I by no means have all the answers, but that doesn't mean there are none. I don't think the "real" wing woman companies would be much better at getting to know you well enough to help, in the amount of time avail. I don't know exactly why but I don't really trust them. Please forgive my attempt to overly romanticize the idea, I'm just trying to stir discussion.

dear beautiful Berkleigh, I believe my ignorance is showing. I am new and I don't know those people. Is this something you have experience in? Does it work?

Of course FWP, That is a very real very valid point. I was just kicking the idea around, and seeing what came of it. I by no means have all the answers, but that doesn't mean there are none. I don't think the "real" wing woman companies would be much better at getting to know you well enough to help, in the amount of time avail. I don't know exactly why but I don't really trust them. Please forgive my attempt to overly romanticize the idea, I'm just trying to stir discussion.

dear beautiful Berkleigh, I believe my ignorance is showing. I am new and I don't know those people. Is this something you have experience in? Does it work? Originally Posted by Kelynt

The real companies had the girl meet the guys for the first time at the bar, probably for safety. It usually ended up with one woman and 3 or 4 guys. They arrived separately and didn't really do much other than sit there looking pretty, and usually bored. Then, when the pre-arranged time was up they left, leaving the guy at the bar, usually alone.

The whole think was so awkward to observe as to be embarrassing.

You think women don't notice the hot woman who is way out of place with the guy she's with?

Wing women work but they have to actually know you. Originally Posted by Fort Worth Punk

Punkster, you nailed it. Women are noticing the woman is intrigued by the man, impressed by him, not just with him. Some men know how to outsmart women socially, but most don't. Women have much more practice at it, and generally have better verbal skills, and enjoy the verbal challenge.

At least it would give you some conversational material to work with on the intended target. But you need to have your response prepared to the question, "Is that your granddaughter that you're drinking with over there?"

Here's a 2005 article regarding that Dallas company... http://www.dallasobserver.com/2005-10-20/news/wing-it/

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