What dictates how much you pay.

For me its flat out looks. I don't give a shit about how expensive your lingerie is. Give zero fucks about GFE its all about how hot someone is first and foremost. I just can't see the point in paying 250-300 bucks for someone barely above average or average in some cases. I see the guys here get called cheap a lot but has anyone ever thought maybe their just not that hot especially when there is the occasional hot broke college girl that uses bp before classes start because her student loans didn't give her enough money going at half the price someone with her looks could go for. That reminds me I need to see when classes start right before is the perfect time to camp out BP.

Good topic. I posted something somewhat similar a while back. Will be interested in hearing different opinions.

I am sure it varies greatly. As you said Random for you it is looks. No GFE needed. Alot of guys are of the same mindset. I am just the opposite. For me it is all about the relationship. I like to see the same girl every week, do things for them over and above just the donation that I give them on the night I see them and text and talk with them during the week between appointments. I guess for me that is the ultimate GFE experience. When I am lucky enough to be in one of these arrangements that is when I am the happiest. Certainly looks are important. I have been fortunate to have had two of these arrangements over the last 3 years and both girls were absolutely beautiful.

I am sure it varies greatly. As you said Random for you it is looks. No GFE needed. Alot of guys are of the same mindset. I am just the opposite. For me it is all about the relationship. I like to see the same girl every week, do things for them over and above just the donation that I give them on the night I see them and text and talk with them during the week between appointments. I guess for me that is the ultimate GFE experience. When I am lucky enough to be in one of these arrangements that is when I am the happiest. Certainly looks are important. I have been fortunate to have had two of these arrangements over the last 3 years and both girls were absolutely beautiful. Originally Posted by FlyboyNY

Do you consider it to be more of a Sugar Daddy/sugar baby arrangement than a client/provider one?

It comes down to what you're looking for. If you simply want to hook up with young hotties and could care less about GFE then bargain hunting on BP is an option. For those guys it wouldn't make much sense to spend 300 on a VP known for being a great GFE if that isn't their interest. For me it's more about the interaction which is why I tend towards GFE gals. My biggest disappointments have been with younger hotties from BP. They often try to rush you and just go through the motions. I'm done with that. For me that's a waste of time. For a lot of guys 300 will never be worth it. For me bargain hunting off BP isn't worth it since I'll likely end up wishing I had seen someone else. My hobbying experiences have been much better since I got away from BP. I'd take Sara Charles over most of those young BP spinners without a second thought. That's just me. To each is own. It comes down to finding the experiences you desire. There's many paths to that end.

I definitely value interaction. Of course I have to be physically attracted to them as well but I don't always need to see the hottest girl imaginable if it's like fucking a dead fish as well as conversing with one.

Also fantasy fullfillment is something I value too. If a girl is able to provide a certain fantasy or fetish I factor that in as well. If I'm looking for that anyways.

Do you consider it to be more of a Sugar Daddy/sugar baby arrangement than a client/provider one? Originally Posted by bustybabygirl

The last two relationships/arrangements could have been considered semi SB/SD I suppose. To me though a true SB/SD arrangement would be one where it would be exclusive. One SD taking care of one SB and she would be exclusive to him. I think those are probably not as common as the ones where the SB's have multiple SD's due to the SD not being willing to support her to the level she desires. The last two I had I think were somewhere in between Client/Provider and SB/SD. Neither were exclusive to me nor did I expect them to be although I was pretty much exclusive to them but we had standing weekly appointments. I felt we were friends outside the arrangement and it made me happy to be able to help them with real life issues and expenses. I am fortunate to have the resources to do that. I know a few others who feel like me and find satisfaction in being part of someones life and being appreciated for being there. A shrink would probably tell me I am just looking for love and approval that I didn't receive as a child. JK on that. I think. I'm conflicted.
Again that is just me and my satisfaction. Before I met the first girl that became my weekly regular three years ago I saw a large rotation of girls and was always interested in the new kid on the block. Now I desire someone who I can be closer to and share more than just a half hour of physical interaction with. Hard to find these days. But nothing wrong with F&L for those that don't need or desire the relationship.

I base it on looks. Beyond that, I don't really care. You could be a huge bitch to me and If you're hot, you put out, and it's decent, I'm satisfied.

If you're nice, it's a plus I guess lol. But I'm not picky. I like to keep it simple. I don't need them to pretend to be my girlfriend or make them wear certain outfits when I arrive because it's all coming off anyway.

Looks get her noticed. History/Reputation lock it up.

Looks and her attitude. Her reviews help lots.....

The last two relationships/arrangements could have been considered semi SB/SD I suppose. To me though a true SB/SD arrangement would be one where it would be exclusive. One SD taking care of one SB and she would be exclusive to him. I think those are probably not as common as the ones where the SB's have multiple SD's due to the SD not being willing to support her to the level she desires. The last two I had I think were somewhere in between Client/Provider and SB/SD. Neither were exclusive to me nor did I expect them to be although I was pretty much exclusive to them but we had standing weekly appointments. I felt we were friends outside the arrangement and it made me happy to be able to help them with real life issues and expenses. I am fortunate to have the resources to do that. I know a few others who feel like me and find satisfaction in being part of someones life and being appreciated for being there. A shrink would probably tell me I am just looking for love and approval that I didn't receive as a child. JK on that. I think. I'm conflicted.
Again that is just me and my satisfaction. Before I met the first girl that became my weekly regular three years ago I saw a large rotation of girls and was always interested in the new kid on the block. Now I desire someone who I can be closer to and share more than just a half hour of physical interaction with. Hard to find these days. But nothing wrong with F&L for those that don't need or desire the relationship. Originally Posted by FlyboyNY

FB, same for me. I tend to see the same very,few girls. Some are providers, some are from SA and more exclusive.
These types of arrangements involve physical and emotional/intimacy aspects that make the overall experience better for me. While i have pretty much a set amount i am willing to pay, i am willing to do extras for these ladies as needed. Phone bill, emergency cash. Lunch/ drinks together.

Looks and attitude both matter. I will get to the 200 and above point on looks. But will not return unless attitude and service are good also. GFE is not needed if looks are spectacular! Rushing drops their worth a lot.

For me it's reviews and services offered. Looks are secondary and I'm not going to pay a premium just because one provider looks a little better than another.

I do prefer GFE and getting a full hour for my money though. $300/hr was pretty typical for many quality providers in NYC.

The last two relationships/arrangements could have been considered semi SB/SD I suppose. To me though a true SB/SD arrangement would be one where it would be exclusive. One SD taking care of one SB and she would be exclusive to him. I think those are probably not as common as the ones where the SB's have multiple SD's due to the SD not being willing to support her to the level she desires. The last two I had I think were somewhere in between Client/Provider and SB/SD. Neither were exclusive to me nor did I expect them to be although I was pretty much exclusive to them but we had standing weekly appointments. I felt we were friends outside the arrangement and it made me happy to be able to help them with real life issues and expenses. I am fortunate to have the resources to do that. I know a few others who feel like me and find satisfaction in being part of someones life and being appreciated for being there. A shrink would probably tell me I am just looking for love and approval that I didn't receive as a child. JK on that. I think. I'm conflicted.
Again that is just me and my satisfaction. Before I met the first girl that became my weekly regular three years ago I saw a large rotation of girls and was always interested in the new kid on the block. Now I desire someone who I can be closer to and share more than just a half hour of physical interaction with. Hard to find these days. But nothing wrong with F&L for those that don't need or desire the relationship. Originally Posted by FlyboyNY

I mean if you are doing it more so to help people then get laid there are so many more useful things your money could go to to actually help. Local start up programs, a shelter something anything but this.

I just personally seen way to many women fuck up catch a break, fuck up again ask for a hand out. Catch a break then loose like their 5th job in a row due to being a fuck up. Their are exceptions but most people who can't afford to have a sustainable life with basic niceties did so intentionally. Now the escort going for college for 1 you are not going find that here. The escort legit going just for college is a one and done constantly doing so after is because its easy money. College payments are fucked up though. Then there are some girls who did because theres simply a lot of money in it.

The point is you are rarely and I mean very rarely going to find someone that needs help and is making a active effort to help themselves first. Fuck thats just dealing with people in general.

I'm totally about the GFE, but have been everywhere from $$ to $$$ in donation rates. Never been a fuck & leave fellow as that seems pointless. Having a quality appointment with someone who is intelligent you trust, who is not a total whack job, and can carry on a conversation is worth every cent.

But going to the poor house establishing a friendship doesn't make much sense ether. May as well marry the girl or put the time in to find a girlfriend. Totally IMO.