I detest Trump and will not vote for him.
That said, I also don't regard him as a major party candidate in light of how the entire GOP establishment detests him and is trying to derail him. He definitely is an outsider. Maybe even an outhouse.
But HRC is a different story. She is the hand-picked, anointed one of the Democratic Party. She was supposed to be the restoration of the Clinton dynasty. She is the consummate insider. She and her husband ARE the Democratic party establishment.
But she is now in a tie with the asshole, perhaps even trailing, with about 6-7 weeks to go.
So, my question is: Has there ever been a worse major party candidate? She is losing to someone who should be a punching bag.
Other candidates have lost big - Mondale, Goldwater, Dukakis. But they weren't actually BAD candidates. They simply lost to a much stronger opponent.
Hillary is losing to, well, Donald Trump. Can it be worse?
- Revenant
- 09-19-2016, 10:17 PM
- lustylad
- 09-19-2016, 10:34 PM
You're right, hildebeest is a terrible candidate in every way.
What amazes me is how there are plenty of Republicans who openly bemoan Trump's flaws, yet almost no Dimotards are honest enough to admit their own candidate's flaws.
The Wall Street Journal (which is far from a Trump supporter) wrote this editorial a week ago, right after hildebeest told the voters how she REALLY feels about them:
Clinton and the ‘Deplorables’
Her comments about Trump voters—her fellow Americans—show why she could lose.
Sept. 11, 2016 6:40 p.m. ET
In one of Saturday Night Live’s more memorable political skits, Jon Lovitz playing Michael Dukakis in 1988 exclaims after another silly statement by Dana Carvey as George H.W. Bush that “I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy!” More than a few Democrats are beginning to wonder if Hillary Clinton could soon be saying that about Donald Trump, of all people.
That’s the essence of a Friday story in the Washington Post headlined “Democrats wonder and worry: Why isn’t Clinton far ahead of Trump?” The reporters quote former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle as saying that given “all the things that Trump has done, the numbers should be far more explicitly in her favor, but they’re not.”
The tone is Lovitz-like disbelief, which helps to explain why the polls are tightening. Democrats have convinced themselves that Mr. Trump is such a threat to the republic that they can’t recognize that Mrs. Clinton is equally as unacceptable to most of the country. In a year when most Americans want change in Washington, Democrats don’t want to admit that they’ve nominated the epitome of the self-dealing status quo that disdains their fellow Americans.
Consider the reaction over the weekend to Mrs. Clinton’s comments Friday night that “just to be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the ‘basket of deplorables.’ Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.”
The remarks echo Mitt Romney’s comment in 2012 about the 47% on the government dole. The media played up the Romney comments as emblematic of an out-of-touch rich guy, and they probably contributed to his defeat. Mrs. Clinton’s comments were arguably worse, attributing hateful motives to tens of millions of Americans, but the media reaction has treated it like a mere foot fault.
Mrs. Clinton apologized, sort of, on Saturday by saying in a statement that, “Last night I was ‘grossly generalistic,’ and that’s never a good idea. I regret saying ‘half’—that was wrong.” But she went on to say she was otherwise right because some of Mr. Trump’s supporters are the likes of David Duke.
Yet the rest of what she said was almost as insulting. She said Mr. Trump’s other supporters are “people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.”
So she thinks half of Mr. Trump’s voters are loathsome bigots and the other half are losers and dupes who deserve Democratic pity. It’s no accident that Mrs. Clinton said this at a fundraiser headlined by Barbra Streisand, the friendliest of crowds, because this really is what today’s elite progressives believe about America’s great unwashed.
Mr. Trump has certainly made appalling comments, but Republicans and media conservatives have criticized him for it. They denounced his praise of Vladimir Putin. They assailed his attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel and his insensitivity to the Khan family. Some have said they can’t support the GOP nominee.
But where are the Democrats raising doubts about Mrs. Clinton’s behavior? Mrs. Clinton reneged on her confirmation promise to the Senate not to mix her State Department duties with the Clinton Foundation by doing favors for donors. She maintained a private email server to hide her official emails and lied about it to the public. Yet no prominent Democrat we know has denounced this deception, and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says there’s “too much ado” about it.
The great liberal media watchdogs aren’t challenging Mrs. Clinton either. They’re beating up NBC’s Matt Lauer because he spent too much time asking Mrs. Clinton about the emails during last week’s military forum. This is best understood as a collective warning to the moderators of the coming debates not to jeopardize their standing in polite progressive company by doing the same.
As Mrs. Clinton’s support has eroded in the polls, Democrats are figuring out that they may have nominated the only candidate who could lose to Donald Trump. But then they didn’t give themselves many good choices. Their Congressional leaders are old, and their bench in the states is thin after their election wipeouts of 2010 and 2014. Mrs. Clinton’s bid to be the first woman President fit the party’s priority for identity politics, and the Clinton machine would do what it takes to win.
Mrs. Clinton is still leading, and Mr. Trump is always a driverless-car accident waiting to happen. But it’s also obvious that a majority of Americans do not want to vote for an extension of the Clinton dynasty. They aren’t “deplorables.” They’ve seen Mrs. Clinton in public life for 25 years and they know what they’ll be getting if she wins.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-...les-1473633613
What amazes me is how there are plenty of Republicans who openly bemoan Trump's flaws, yet almost no Dimotards are honest enough to admit their own candidate's flaws.
The Wall Street Journal (which is far from a Trump supporter) wrote this editorial a week ago, right after hildebeest told the voters how she REALLY feels about them:
Clinton and the ‘Deplorables’
Her comments about Trump voters—her fellow Americans—show why she could lose.
Sept. 11, 2016 6:40 p.m. ET
In one of Saturday Night Live’s more memorable political skits, Jon Lovitz playing Michael Dukakis in 1988 exclaims after another silly statement by Dana Carvey as George H.W. Bush that “I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy!” More than a few Democrats are beginning to wonder if Hillary Clinton could soon be saying that about Donald Trump, of all people.
That’s the essence of a Friday story in the Washington Post headlined “Democrats wonder and worry: Why isn’t Clinton far ahead of Trump?” The reporters quote former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle as saying that given “all the things that Trump has done, the numbers should be far more explicitly in her favor, but they’re not.”
The tone is Lovitz-like disbelief, which helps to explain why the polls are tightening. Democrats have convinced themselves that Mr. Trump is such a threat to the republic that they can’t recognize that Mrs. Clinton is equally as unacceptable to most of the country. In a year when most Americans want change in Washington, Democrats don’t want to admit that they’ve nominated the epitome of the self-dealing status quo that disdains their fellow Americans.
Consider the reaction over the weekend to Mrs. Clinton’s comments Friday night that “just to be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the ‘basket of deplorables.’ Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.”
The remarks echo Mitt Romney’s comment in 2012 about the 47% on the government dole. The media played up the Romney comments as emblematic of an out-of-touch rich guy, and they probably contributed to his defeat. Mrs. Clinton’s comments were arguably worse, attributing hateful motives to tens of millions of Americans, but the media reaction has treated it like a mere foot fault.
Mrs. Clinton apologized, sort of, on Saturday by saying in a statement that, “Last night I was ‘grossly generalistic,’ and that’s never a good idea. I regret saying ‘half’—that was wrong.” But she went on to say she was otherwise right because some of Mr. Trump’s supporters are the likes of David Duke.
Yet the rest of what she said was almost as insulting. She said Mr. Trump’s other supporters are “people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.”
So she thinks half of Mr. Trump’s voters are loathsome bigots and the other half are losers and dupes who deserve Democratic pity. It’s no accident that Mrs. Clinton said this at a fundraiser headlined by Barbra Streisand, the friendliest of crowds, because this really is what today’s elite progressives believe about America’s great unwashed.
Mr. Trump has certainly made appalling comments, but Republicans and media conservatives have criticized him for it. They denounced his praise of Vladimir Putin. They assailed his attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel and his insensitivity to the Khan family. Some have said they can’t support the GOP nominee.
But where are the Democrats raising doubts about Mrs. Clinton’s behavior? Mrs. Clinton reneged on her confirmation promise to the Senate not to mix her State Department duties with the Clinton Foundation by doing favors for donors. She maintained a private email server to hide her official emails and lied about it to the public. Yet no prominent Democrat we know has denounced this deception, and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says there’s “too much ado” about it.
The great liberal media watchdogs aren’t challenging Mrs. Clinton either. They’re beating up NBC’s Matt Lauer because he spent too much time asking Mrs. Clinton about the emails during last week’s military forum. This is best understood as a collective warning to the moderators of the coming debates not to jeopardize their standing in polite progressive company by doing the same.
As Mrs. Clinton’s support has eroded in the polls, Democrats are figuring out that they may have nominated the only candidate who could lose to Donald Trump. But then they didn’t give themselves many good choices. Their Congressional leaders are old, and their bench in the states is thin after their election wipeouts of 2010 and 2014. Mrs. Clinton’s bid to be the first woman President fit the party’s priority for identity politics, and the Clinton machine would do what it takes to win.
Mrs. Clinton is still leading, and Mr. Trump is always a driverless-car accident waiting to happen. But it’s also obvious that a majority of Americans do not want to vote for an extension of the Clinton dynasty. They aren’t “deplorables.” They’ve seen Mrs. Clinton in public life for 25 years and they know what they’ll be getting if she wins.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-...les-1473633613
- DSK
- 09-19-2016, 11:43 PM
I detest Trump and will not vote for him.Hillary is probably the only one Trump could beat, and Trump is the only one Hillary can beat - weird as hell!
That said, I also don't regard him as a major party candidate in light of how the entire GOP establishment detests him and is trying to derail him. He definitely is an outsider. Maybe even an outhouse.
But HRC is a different story. She is the hand-picked, anointed one of the Democratic Party. She was supposed to be the restoration of the Clinton dynasty. She is the consummate insider. She and her husband ARE the Democratic party establishment.
But she is now in a tie with the asshole, perhaps even trailing, with about 6-7 weeks to go.
So, my question is: Has there ever been a worse major party candidate? She is losing to someone who should be a punching bag.
Other candidates have lost big - Mondale, Goldwater, Dukakis. But they weren't actually BAD candidates. They simply lost to a much stronger opponent.
Hillary is losing to, well, Donald Trump. Can it be worse? Originally Posted by Revenant
- Yssup Rider
- 09-20-2016, 12:17 AM
This will not be that close folks.
- gnadfly
- 09-20-2016, 12:17 AM
- DSK
- 09-20-2016, 07:27 AM
- Guest123018-4
- 09-20-2016, 07:53 AM
Hillary has the typical elitist liberal mentality, you know like Stalin, Lenin, Mao...........
- LexusLover
- 09-20-2016, 08:19 AM
- bambino
- 09-20-2016, 08:34 AM
She's the worst that I can remember.
- Yssup Rider
- 09-20-2016, 09:03 AM
Gee guys. Does this mean you won't be voting for her?
- LexusLover
- 09-20-2016, 09:15 AM
YouRong..
... runs through the forum posting stupid shit...
... screaming .... LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!
(Got nothing to say, but he just posts shit COMMENTS!)
... runs through the forum posting stupid shit...
... screaming .... LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!
(Got nothing to say, but he just posts shit COMMENTS!)
- Yssup Rider
- 09-20-2016, 11:32 AM
- R.M.
- 09-20-2016, 11:35 AM
Shut up little spam man. You're butt is leaking again. Need a tampon?
- lustylad
- 09-20-2016, 01:00 PM
- DSK
- 09-20-2016, 01:59 PM