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That fucking dummy better hope like hell that Trump gets elected so that he can eventually receive a pardon.




WASHINGTON (AP) — The founder of the Oath Keepers extremist group was sentenced Thursday to 18 years in prison for orchestrating a weekslong plot that culminated in his followers attacking the U.S. Capitol in a bid to keep President Joe Biden out of the White House after the 2020 election.

Stewart Rhodes is the first person charged in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack to be sentenced for seditious conspiracy, and his sentence is the longest that has been handed down so far in the hundreds of Capitol riot cases.

It’s another landmark in the Justice Department’s sweeping Jan. 6 investigation, which has led to convictions against the top leaders of two far-right extremist groups that authorities say came to Washington prepared to fight to keep President Donald Trump in power at all costs.

Prosecutors had urged the judge in Washington’s federal court to put Rhodes behind bars for 25 years, saying he remains a threat to American democracy.

In remarks before the judge handed down his sentence, Rhodes called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime is opposing those who are “destroying” the country.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes will be sentenced Thursday after a landmark verdict convicting him of spearheading a weekslong plot to keep former President Donald Trump in power, culminating in far-right extremists attacking the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Prosecutors are seeking 25 years behind bars for Rhodes, who will be sentenced in the federal court in Washington that sits less than a mile from the Capitol. He will be the first Jan. 6 defendant convicted of seditious conspiracy to receive his punishment, which will set the standard for a slew of extremists group members' sentencings to come.

Prosecutors say Rhodes remains a threat to American democracy more than two years after he led a plot to forcibly block the transfer of power from Trump to President Joe Biden after Trump lost the 2020 election.

At Thursday's hearing, in a first for a Jan. 6 case, U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta agreed with prosecutors to apply enhanced penalties for “terrorism,” under the argument that the Oath Keepers sought to influence the government through “intimidation or coercion.” Judges in previous sentencings had shot down the Justice Department’s request for the so-called “terrorism enhancement” — which can lead to a longer prison term — but Mehta said it fits in Rhodes’ case.

“Mr. Rhodes directed his co-conspirators to come to the Capitol and they abided,” the judge said.

Defense lawyer, Phillip Linder denied that Rhodes gave any orders for Oath Keepers to enter the Capitol on Jan. 6. Linder told the judge that Rhodes could have had many more Oath Keepers come to the Capitol “if he really wanted to” disrupt Congress’ certification of the Electoral College vote.

Rhodes, of Granbury, Texas, was found guilty in November of seditious conspiracy alongside Florida chapter leader Kelly Meggs, and four other Oath Keepers were convicted of the rarely used charge during a second trial in January. Three of Rhodes' co-defendants were acquitted of seditious conspiracy but convicted of other crimes.


It was one of the most consequential cases brought by the Justice Department as it has sought to prove that the riot for right-wing extremists like the Oath Keepers was not a spur-of-the-moment protest but the culmination of weeks of plotting to overturn Biden's election victory.

Rhodes' sentencing comes just weeks after former Proud Boys national chairman Enrique Tarrio was convicted of seditious conspiracy alongside other leaders of his far-right group for what prosecutors said was a separate plot to block the transfer of presidential power. The Proud Boys will be sentenced in August and September.

Rhodes' lawyers say he should be sentenced to the 16 months he has already served behind bars since his January 2022 arrest. In seeking leniency for Rhodes, his lawyers cited his military service and told the judge that Rhodes' writings and statements were all “protected political speech.” Rhodes' attorneys plan to appeal his conviction.

Meggs is expected to be sentenced after Rhodes later Thursday and two other Oath Keepers will be sentenced Friday. Four other defendants convicted of seditious conspiracy will be sentenced next week.

The judge canceled the sentencing hearing scheduled this week for another defendant — Thomas Caldwell of Berryville, Virginia — as the judge weighs whether to overturn the jury’s guilty verdict against Caldwell for obstruction and a documents tampering charge.

The convictions were a major blow for the Oath Keepers, which Rhodes founded in 2009 and grew into one of the largest far-right anti-government militia groups. Recruiting past and present members of the military and police officers, the group promotes the belief that the federal government is out to strip citizens of their civil liberties and paints its followers as defenders against tyranny.

The defense tried to seize on the fact that none of the Oath Keepers’ messages laid out an explicit plan to storm the Capitol. But prosecutors said the Oath Keepers saw an an opportunity to further their goal to stop the transfer of power and sprang into action when the mob began storming the building.

Messages, recordings and other evidence presented at trial show Rhodes and his followers growing increasingly enraged after the 2020 election at the prospect of a Biden presidency, which they viewed as a threat to the country and their way of life. In an encrypted chat two days after the election, Rhodes told his followers to prepare their “mind, body, spirit” for “civil war.”

In a conference call days later, Rhodes urged his followers to let Trump know they were “willing to die” for the country. One Oath Keeper who was listening was so alarmed that he began recording the call and contacted the FBI, telling jurors “it sounded like we were going to war against the United States government.”

Another man testified that after the riot, Rhodes tried to persuade him to pass along a message to Trump that urged the president not to give up his fight to hold onto power. The intermediary — who told jurors he had an indirect way to reach the president — recorded his meeting with Rhodes and went to the FBI instead of giving the message to Trump. Rhodes told the man during that meeting that the Oath Keepers “should have brought rifles” on Jan. 6.

The longest sentence so far in the more than 1,000 Capitol riot cases — 14 years in prison — was handed down this month for a man with a long criminal record who attacked police officers with pepper spray and a chair as he stormed the Capitol. Just over 500 of the defendants have been sentenced, with more than half receiving prison time and the remainder getting sentences such as probation or home detention.
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Didn't you post something earlier about long threads that aren't worth reading? This one is a good example.
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Didn't you post something earlier about long threads that aren't worth reading? This one is a good example. Originally Posted by Levianon17
Levi, I have to admit that I only read the 1st two paragraphs but because I know there are a lot of conspiracy theorist old bozos in this forum who have nothing to do, I decided to just copy and paste the whole thing for everyone's reading entertainment just in case they wanted to waste time reading all of it... nobody has to thank me. I'm just thoughtful like that and I certainly appreciate your more than constructive and insightful words as usual though.

Just for clarification for you and others, my disdain for long articles posted in here is not the topic. The retarded Trumpette convicted felon and the many other criminal retards there on that day are the topic should you choose to focus on the actual topic and not me.

Stewey is an interesting guy. I'm still trying to figure out how fucked up you have to be to graduate from Yale law school and then get disbarred in Montana of all places. What a complete waste of a god given good brain on that Trumpette dipshit. LOL
Hopefully 18 years for Diaper Don as well, maybe cell mates.
You know who Rhodes really is? He’s little Ralphie from the movie “A Christmas Story” who’s all grown up and put his eye out with his Daisy Red Ryder BB gun.
May the 18 years pass….slowly!
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Levi, I have to admit that I only read the 1st two paragraphs but because I know there are a lot of conspiracy theorist old bozos in this forum who have nothing to do, I decided to just copy and paste the whole thing for everyone's reading entertainment just in case they wanted to waste time reading all of it... nobody has to thank me. I'm just thoughtful like that and I certainly appreciate your more than constructive and insightful words as usual though.

Just for clarification for you and others, my disdain for long articles posted in here is not the topic. The retarded Trumpette convicted felon and the many other criminal retards there on that day are the topic should you choose to focus on the actual topic and not me.

Stewey is an interesting guy. I'm still trying to figure out how fucked up you have to be to graduate from Yale law school and then get disbarred in Montana of all places. What a complete waste of a god given good brain on that Trumpette dipshit. LOL Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
It's an insignificant worn out topic.
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You know who Rhodes really is? He’s little Ralphie from the movie “A Christmas Story” who’s all grown up and put his eye out with his Daisy Red Ryder BB gun.
May the 18 years pass….slowly! Originally Posted by Prolongus
Just another actor playing a role for the gullible masses. He won't spend 18 minutes less 18 years in jail.
Lucas McCain's Avatar
It's an insignificant worn out topic. Originally Posted by Levianon17
Cool. Don't post in this thread then, genius. It's not that hard to just ignore it. Hell, that's what I do when I have no interest in a thread instead of trying to hijack it because of my displeasure. Understand?

Do you think the same about threads that are "worn out" when it comes to the zillion election fraud bullshit threads in this forum? Of course you don't. This one just doesn't fit your narrative so fuck the topic, and let's just try to shit on it so it is dismissed.

Just a reminder - the topic is a retard who just got 18 years for being a next level loser retard... hell I did say the guy is intriguing to me because he is such a complete fuck up. That's kind of a compliment.

Edit for Barley below: Huh? Regardless, I'm just not feeling the love. LOL
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I'm surprised but maybe I shouldn't be. You always seem to support totalitarian tactics...as long as it is your side. A guy shows up at the capital, walks around OUTSIDE for awhile, and now you're happy he's going to prison for years. What does that make you? Pretty low it would seem to me. People killed other people in 2020, set buildings on fire, threatened cops and you support them not doing any time. You're kind of like the guy who pushes someone else if front of you hoping the lions eat you last.
Levianon17's Avatar
Cool. Don't post in this thread then, genius. It's not that hard to just ignore it. Hell, that's what I do when I have no interest in a thread instead of trying to hijack it because of my displeasure. Understand?

Do you think the same about threads that are "worn out" when it comes to the zillion election fraud bullshit threads in this forum? Of course you don't. This one just doesn't fit your narrative so fuck the topic, and let's just try to shit on it so it is dismissed.

Just a reminder - the topic is a retard who just got 18 years for being a next level loser retard... hell I did say the guy is intriguing to me because he is such a complete fuck up. That's kind of a compliment.

Edit for Barley below: Huh? Regardless, I'm just not feeling the love. LOL Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
A three year topic full of holes is definitely worn out. But if it surrounds Trump some how lets keep it going. What a joke.
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  • jan-w
  • 05-26-2023, 12:55 AM
Even if Trump were miraculously elected, he doesn't give a shit about any of those Jan. 6th crackpots. They're not in his social circle so he sure as hell wouldn't pardon any of them. To him, they're just stupid yahoos who buy his fantasy cards and drink his kool-aid.
Even if Trump were miraculously elected, he doesn't give a shit about any of those Jan. 6th crackpots. They're not in his social circle so he sure as hell wouldn't pardon any of them. To him, they're just stupid yahoos who buy his fantasy cards and drink his kool-aid. Originally Posted by jan-w
... Trump has already stated that He'd surely
pardon a lot of them.

You must have missed that.

#### Salty
Levianon17's Avatar
Even if Trump were miraculously elected, he doesn't give a shit about any of those Jan. 6th crackpots. They're not in his social circle so he sure as hell wouldn't pardon any of them. To him, they're just stupid yahoos who buy his fantasy cards and drink his kool-aid. Originally Posted by jan-w
Probably so, none of them were his true supporters anyway.
... The lads there who attacked the police and the others
who had plans to over-throw the government were NOT
the true Trump supporters.

Some o' those "Oath Keepers" were looking to cause problems anyway.
And from what a few of them have claimed - it wouldn't surprise
me if the FBI/DOJ surely might of had a hand in the plot
- like they did in the "Whitmer kidnapping" over Michigan-way.

#### Salty