You guys still say Christians are Peaceful????

Tens of thousands of Muslims flee Christian militias in Central African Republic
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BANGUI, Central African Republic – Tens of thousands of Muslims are fleeing to neighboring countries by plane and truck as Christian militias stage brutal attacks, shattering the social fabric of this war-ravaged nation.

In towns and villages as well as here in the capital, Christian vigilantes wielding machetes have killed scores of Muslims, who are a minority here, and burned and looted their houses and mosques in recent days, according to witnesses, aid agencies and peacekeepers. Tens of thousands of Muslims have fled their homes.

The cycle of chaos is fast becoming one of the worst outbreaks of violence along Muslim-Christian fault lines in recent memory in sub-Saharan Africa, tensions that have also plagued countries such as Nigeria and Sudan.

The brutalities began to escalate when the country’s first Muslim leader, Michel Djotodia, stepped down and went into exile last month. Djotodia, who had seized power in a coup last March, had been under pressure from regional leaders to resign. His departure was meant to bring stability to this poor country, but humanitarian and human rights workers say there is more violence now than at any time since the coup.

“Civilians remain in constant fear for their lives and have been largely left to fend for themselves,” Martine Flokstra, emergency coordinator for the aid agency Doctors Without Borders, said in a statement Friday, adding that the violence had reached “extreme and unprecedented” levels.

On Friday, thousands of Muslims hopped aboard trucks packed with their possessions, protected by soldiers from Chad, and drove out of Bangui, as Christians cheered their departures or tried to loot the trucks as they drove through Christian areas. At least one Muslim man, who fell from a truck, was killed by a mob. Meanwhile, thousands more Muslims huddled at the airport in a crowded hangar, waiting to be evacuated.

“They are killing Muslims with knives,” said Muhammed Salih Yahya, 38, a shopkeeper, making a slitting motion across his throat. He arrived at the airport Wednesday from the western town of Yaloke with his wife and five children. “I built my house over two years, but the Christians destroyed it in minutes. I want to leave.”

Christians have also been victims of violence, targeted by Muslims in this complex communal conflict that U.N. and humanitarian officials fear could implode into genocide. Several hundred thousand Christians remain in crowded, squalid camps, unable or too afraid to return home.

But attacks on Muslims in particular are intensifying, aid workers said.

Djotodia’s departure weakened the former Muslim rebels, known as Seleka, who carried out deadly attacks on Christians after they grabbed power in March, prompting the birth of Christian militias called the anti-balaka, or “anti-machete” in the local Sango language. The armed vigilantes have used the power vacuum to step up assaults on Muslims.

Now in disarray, the Seleka are no longer able to protect Muslims from the Christian vigilantes. The roughly 6,500 French and African troops authorized by the U.N. Security Council to intervene have been unable to stop the violence.

“In the northwest and in Bangui, we are currently witnessing direct attacks against the Muslim minority,” Flokstra said. “We are concerned about the fate of these communities trapped in their villages, surrounded by anti-Balaka groups, and also about the fact that many Muslim families are being forced into exile to survive.”


Fleeing to Chad
According to the International Organization for Migration (IOM), more than 60,000 people, most of them Muslim, have fled to neighboring countries since Dec. 5, when violence erupted after an uprising by the Christian militias and former government soldiers. The number of departures escalated after Djotodia’s resignation. Muslims make up roughly 15 percent of the country’s 4.5 million people.

Most have fled to Chad and Cameroon, while others have gone to Nigeria, Niger and Sudan, according to IOM statistics. The numbers include foreigners who work in the Central African Republic as well as citizens. In this region, people often have social and economic ties across borders. Many families here, for example, have relatives in Chad, Cameroon and other neighboring nations.

IOM officials are concerned about those leaving. The vast majority, roughly 50,000, are headed to Chad, a mostly Muslim country that is also among the poorest in the world.

“What kind of support will they get from the Chadian authorities? Are they going to be able to reinsert themselves into society there?” said Giovanni Cassani, the emergency coordinator for IOM. “50,000 is a small town. And there is more on the way, and there will be more, unless the situation improves here.”

The Central African Republic, Cassani said, is already reeling from the economic shock of Muslims departing. Many are traders and shopkeepers who imported staples. They also ran the meat industry. “It’s going to have a massive effect on society here,” Cassani said. “Prices are going up. . . . It’s been extremely difficult to find beef in the capital.”

Many of the clashes have occurred in northwestern towns. In a village called Bozoum, 2,500 Muslims fled Wednesday, according to Doctors Without Borders. And Bouar, a Muslim town of 8,000 people, “remains effectively imprisoned” by anti-balaka militias, according to the agency.

Homes looted, taken apart
In Bangui, the capital, Chadian special forces and former Seleka rebels guarded the convoy of trucks carrying Muslims out of the city toward the Chadian border. The Muslims were picked up at the airport, at mosques and from an area called Kilo 5, one of the capital’s last remaining Muslim enclaves. In some cases, French and African soldiers had to fend off looters. A few trucks had to be abandoned.

The man who fell off one of the trucks was viciously slain by a mob that cut off his genitals and hands, said Peter Bouckaert, emergencies director for Human Rights Watch.

“The French keep trying to say the situation is stabilizing, but it actually isn’t,” Bouckaert said. “The only areas that are stabilizing are areas where all the Muslims are gone.”

Only two weeks ago, Bouckaert said, the Muslim neighborhood of Miskine was untouched by the anti-balaka. Today, the area is deserted, mosques and Muslim homes looted and taken apart brick by brick. About 10,000 Muslims lived in the town of Bossangoa in December, he added. Only a few hundred are left.

At the airport, Muhammad Abdirahman, 62, was waiting to leave. His village, Jbawi, had been burned down by the anti-balaka and nearly everyone was dead, he said. Fortunately, he had left with his wife and 12 children before the massacre, and arrived at the airport last week. Originally from Chad, he has lived here for the past 50 years.

“I don’t even know Chad,” he said. “But what can I do? If I stay, the Christians will use every opportunity to kill me and my family.”

Sudarsan Raghavan has been The Post's Kabul bureau chief since 2014. He was previously based in Nairobi and Baghdad for the Post.

I don't know Chad either. Who is this Chad? Are you kidding? They won't rise to this bait. Don't you know it's only Muslims who do the killing?

The Central African Republic [Nairobi], a landlocked nation of about 5 million people, has been gripped by instability since independence in 1960, fueled by military coups and brutal regimes. The most recent period of chaos began when the Muslim rebels ousted President François Bozizé in March and installed Michel Djotodia, the first Muslim leader in the Christian-majority nation.

Known as Seleka, the rebels embarked on a campaign of killing, kidnappings and other human rights abuses, mainly against Christian communities. The violence sparked the rise of Christian vigilante groups known as “anti-balaka.” “Balaka” means “machete” in the local language. The groups are accused by human rights groups of committing atrocities against Muslim communities.
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. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I B didn't Jesus teach to turn the other cheek? Did you not read that the Christians are killing innocent muslims???? But, in your eyes there's no such thing as a "innocent muslim." I B I am going to assume you are a caucasian male and my apologies- if you are not- but if a KKK member came to my home and killed my family members- would I be justifies to go out and kill every one person I see? Do you see how bad that would look- so you are saying it's ok to kill muslims for revenge? Either admit you are an idiot or apologize to me and every muslim you have insulted.

I B didn't Jesus teach to turn the other cheek? Did you not read that the Christians are killing innocent muslims???? But, in your eyes there's no such thing as a "innocent muslim." I B I am going to assume you are a caucasian male and my apologies- if you are not- but if a KKK member came to my home and killed my family members- would I be justifies to go out and kill every one person I see? Do you see how bad that would look- so you are saying it's ok to kill muslims for revenge? Either admit you are an idiot or apologize to me and every muslim you have insulted. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

IB isn't a caucasian male. He's barely even human.

I B didn't Jesus teach to turn the other cheek? Did you not read that the Christians are killing innocent muslims???? But, in your eyes there's no such thing as a "innocent muslim." I B I am going to assume you are a caucasian male and my apologies- if you are not- but if a KKK member came to my home and killed my family members- would I be justifies to go out and kill every one person I see? Do you see how bad that would look- so you are saying it's ok to kill muslims for revenge? Either admit you are an idiot or apologize to me and every muslim you have insulted. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

You're the one that didn't read the hyperlinks, WE; so, any fault is your own. You posted a story about a group defending themselves against predators, WE, but you didn't read the antecedent stories that would have let you know that those Christians are retaliating against Muslim attackers, WE. You are the one who owes the forum an apology, WE, and you may as well admit your recent conversion to Islam, WE, because just a year ago you were defending every tenet of Christianity.

You're the one that didn't read the hyperlinks, WE; so, any fault is your own. You posted a story about a group defending themselves against predators, WE, but you didn't read the antecedent stories that would have let you know that those Christians are retaliating against Muslim attackers, WE. You are the one who owes the forum an apology, WE, and you may as well admit your recent conversion to Islam, WE, because just a year ago you were defending every tenet of Christianity. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

They aren't Christians, because they aren't turning the other cheek. The bible also commands christians to slay non-believers. We would be better off without religion but ironically, it's our human nature that makes us need to rationalize the random world around us and to weave tales about things that don't really exist, just so we feel comforted and important and like we have some semblance of why things happen, even though there's no fucking rhyme or reason to any of it.

You're the one that didn't read the hyperlinks, WE; so, any fault is your own. You posted a story about a group defending themselves against predators, WE, but you didn't read the antecedent stories that would have let you know that those Christians are retaliating against Muslim attackers, WE. You are the one who owes the forum an apology, WE, and you may as well admit your recent conversion to Islam, WE, because just a year ago you were defending every tenet of Christianity. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I am still and will ALWAYS be a proud Christian, but what I refuse to be is a LYING SOB Christian like yourself who wants to erase history and pretend our Christian and brothers and sisters never did any wrong throughout history.

You are the type of Christian that Jesus is talking about in this verse:


Matthew 7:21-23New International Version (NIV)

True and False Disciples
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Goddamn. A guy who's claiming to be a christian, on a hooker board and his avatar is asking if I want to see his dick. I've seen it all now.

They aren't Christians, because they aren't turning the other cheek. The bible also commands christians to slay non-believers. We would be better off without religion but ironically, it's our human nature that makes us need to rationalize the random world around us and to weave tales about things that don't really exist, just so we feel comforted and important and like we have some semblance of why things happen, even though there's no fucking rhyme or reason to any of it. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

You need to read the Bible a bit more closely, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion. It's a Christian value that everyone has a basic right not to be killed, and everyone has a right to resort to deadly force to defend the innocent, one's family or oneself, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion.

I am still and will ALWAYS be a proud Christian, but what I refuse to be is a LYING SOB Christian like yourself who wants to erase history and pretend our Christian and brothers and sisters never did any wrong throughout history.

You are the type of Christian that Jesus is talking about in this verse:


Matthew 7:21-23New International Version (NIV)

True and False Disciples
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Read Joshua and Deuteronomy, WE.

Goddamn. A guy who's claiming to be a christian, on a hooker board and his avatar is asking if I want to see his dick. I've seen it all now. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

You're ASSumptions will always get you into trouble, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion.

Goddamn. A guy who's claiming to be a christian, on a hooker board and his avatar is asking if I want to see his dick. I've seen it all now. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

If you think that question on my avatar is directed towards you- than perhaps you got some homophobic tendencies The ladies want to see this wood and it's for ladies only- I have never had any hobbyist even once suggest that my avatar is directed towards a male- now I have to drink a 1/5th of scotch and go to sleep.

You need to read the Bible a bit more closely, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion. It's a Christian value that everyone has a basic right not to be killed, and everyone has a right to resort to deadly force to defend the innocent, one's family or oneself, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Is that before or after the snake talks? The fact that you defend or believe that fairytale tells me everything I need to know about you. You grubered jesus dumbass. Nobody wants to be killed, christian or otherwise, you chicken shit cocksucker. Why don't you have mommy microwave you up a hot pocket. Adults are talking here.

You need to read the Bible a bit more closely, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion. It's a Christian value that everyone has a basic right not to be killed, and everyone has a right to resort to deadly force to defend the innocent, one's family or oneself, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Geez, I really need to drink some more scotch because I B is correct- UnderConstruction you clearly have a misunderstanding of those biblical verses.

If you think that question on my avatar is directed towards you- than perhaps you got some homophobic tendencies The ladies want to see this wood and it's for ladies only- I have never had any hobbyist even once suggest that my avatar is directed towards a male- now I have to drink a 1/5th of scotch and go to sleep. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

you're obviously not a writer. But by putting it as your avatar, you are actually directing that question at everyone who sees it and can read. How is it different than walking down the street and blurting out 'wanna see my wood' to anyone and everyone? It's the same thing. Maybe put 'hey ladies' before it and then you would be achieving what your stated goal is.

Geez, I really need to drink some more scotch because I B is correct- UnderConstruction you clearly have a misunderstanding of those biblical verses. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

are you seriously going to argue about the fucking bible, with an agnostic, on a hooker board? You're no more a christian than I can rise and fly.

and don't worry dude, nobody wants your fucking dick. Least of all me.