Rant: Amount of "Real World Info & Deposit Needed" Provider Increasing

I just got back from a tour with some sales guys across AZ, MN and the Midwest with Chicago and Iowa scheduled in January.

I used a combination of Tryst and TER to find some hobby candidates and am bummed at how many I saw with reviews, looks and menus that had me ready to book, only to see their screening has
"must be prepared to show picture ID with real name" or "25%, 50% etc deposit required."

Some of the TER reviews even start off with "well she has a really detailed screening..."

What's more concerning is the amount of continued reviews and business these girls are getting due to careless guys.

Guys, there's no guarantee your info is safe. And deposits?
This is a good one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EscortClien...osit_to_a_sex/


A big thank you to the Dallas ladies I've seen who still accept references or past history here.

Careless guys aka suckers, they are the ones that come telling stories how they got ripped off or worse

A provider tells me she needs to see my DL or wants a 50% deposit, I would tell them fine, but I need to see your DL and you need to give me a BJ first.

The rationale: If I can see your DL, that means that you are not affiliated with LE (LOL) and if you give me a BJ, first, then I will pay your full donation later, I promise!

Many providers want $50 upfront for an outcall, and that is too much. I'm willing to pay upfront for her ride here (maybe ~$20 for an Uber), but the rest I'll give when she gets here.

I understand why providers want deposits even for incalls: they have to deal with a lot of flakes and NCNS, much more often than men do. And time spent waiting around for a guy who doesn't show is money lost that they could have made on someone else. Many other legit businesses charge for missed appointments, but escorts usually don't have that option, so they ask for deposits instead.

However, the vast majority of providers are not worth an incall deposit. I could understand asking if she's one of those expensive, low-volume escorts, as a no-show is a larger hit to her time and finances. But even then, she'd need to have a strong reputation of legitimacy for me to consider it.

Guys, there's no guarantee your info is safe. And deposits?
This is a good one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EscortClien...osit_to_a_sex/


A big thank you to the Dallas ladies I've seen who still accept references or past history here. Originally Posted by nookiebandit

That link had some amusing post in it for sure.

Example:
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When I started being a hobbyist, I couldn’t believe just how shitty of people they are. I always try to be reasonable and professional with them, but a lot of them really are trash
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and that was one of the more positive post about the hobby.

I'm not that jaded as i've had allot of fun but yeah there are allot of bad providers but you learn from the scammers and move on.

I scheduled an encounter this past summer with a fairly high end lady on Tryst. All was going as planned, respectable, etc. then the day before the planned encounter she asks for DL and 25% deposit (not posted anywhere on ad). I respectfully said I prefer to not share the information nor move forward with a deposit for security/discretion reasons. I shared my P411 information during the original communication and believe she had someone confirm/verify account. Nonetheless, she basically told me I was a shady asshole and tagged my phone number at the time with some sort of negative review in the provider world. I should have negatively reviewed her azz somewhere but left it. So who's the shady azzhole?

Boycott anyone wanting any deposits and move on to the next

I travel for work and find myself in the same situation OP. Last thing I need is my DL sitting in a database for Mossad/CIA/MI5/MSS or worse with the "friends south of the border." I'd rather work with references, and let the ladies decide. I have no time to waste jumping through hoops.

Giving your personal information to get laid by a hooker is about the dumbest shit I have ever heard of in my life.

Until I heard about giving them money well BEFORE you fuck them.

Giving your personal information to get laid by a hooker is about the dumbest shit I have ever heard of in my life.

Until I heard about giving them money well BEFORE you fuck them. Originally Posted by onlyAMPs4menow

Amen

.keep repeating this u horny guys..giving ur dl heck no,if references and p411 is no good, then just move on the next one..

Giving your personal information to get laid by a hooker is about the dumbest shit I have ever heard of in my life.

Until I heard about giving them money well BEFORE you fuck them. Originally Posted by onlyAMPs4menow

seems to me from what i've read, that is what most amp customers do.

Step outside Texas and this is normal.

You have to provide ID, but most all allow you to redact everything except your name.

Yes, as a stupid MFer back in the day, I gave my well-earned cash in advance for the promise of "Pussy Heaven." After 2 decades, I have NEVER been repaid. I sent them Western-Unions, Walmart Cash-Advance, what-the-fuck-ever. If reminded, they will always blame you... "You gave me money just like you give all your GFs money!" That is an actual quote.

In fact, there were times I was stupid enough to DOUBLE DOWN! I paid, and then believed their lies when they said their (car broke down, their mother was sick/died, they had to take a final exam, their co-provider stole their money, they had to do this, they had to do that...)

So now, here are the "guidelines." I book with a reputable provider. We chit-chat. I have the "donation" with me, with no intention to do otherwise than to pay for services rendered. We do. WE DO. You (provider) do not have to ask. I will pay you. If you ask, at any time, before, during or after, I give. If you do not, I give. My ATFs know I am go for it. Of course, if you ask "during," I am pissed. Do you really have to get me hard to convince me to pay?

I consider it respect that you do not have to ask. Hell, most of the time I pay for 1 Hr and spend less than 15 min...

No, bring your envelope with you. The top 50% of providers will not ask you for it until AFTER the session. Bitches, cunts and whores will DEMAND it before you begin. Okay I say, here it is. If you deliver, I will re-schedule. If not, I will out you...

So now, here are the "guidelines." I book with a reputable provider. We chit-chat. I have the "donation" with me, with no intention to do otherwise than to pay for services rendered. We do. WE DO. You (provider) do not have to ask. I will pay you. If you ask, at any time, before, during or after, I give. If you do not, I give. My ATFs know I am go for it. Originally Posted by rockitman

100% This right here. I'm the same way brother. If i'm scheduling with you, i'll pay, no need for the extra nonsense.

Can't emphasize enough that giving out RW info has had major consequences to guys in real life. All the stories are on the boards. Including, but not limited to, workplace harassment (putting a job at risk), social harassment (telling facebook friends, reputational risk), bribery, assault, robbery, death threats, etc etc.

Guys and Gals are having casual hookups and one night stands all the time. To me, this is higher risk behavior because you don't have their board handles, see how they review, talk, post, or have references. Our ladies have the casual, social, giving out nice references like "He's safe, and likes XYZ. Have fun girl!", and get paid for it. Handsomely.


Here's how easy they can capture your name. Doing an outcall to your hotel? They can ask to call your room. Guess what they need? Room number and last name. Dangerous if you have an uncommon last name. They ask for a REAL PHONE NUMBER, so they can google it and find your name (and address) posted from telemarketers databases. Then they can see the spokeo website and run the numbers, your addresses, previous addresses, friends/social/family circles etc. They'll do an outcall just send an Uber. Guess what? They now have a text message from Uber/Lyft with your name on it.

Guys bear the burden more if shit goes south on us. We cannot afford to become a societal pariah. I'd rather keep your information safe because there is nothing to motivate me to hurt the ladies. I cannot trust that someone new that needs information beyond references would ever do the same. Not taking that leap.