Why Obama Giving The Order To Kill Bin Laden Was Significant

Sistine Chapel's Avatar
the racist conservative right is quick to say well Obama just gave the order and anyone can give an order. The fact is that had he been wrong there would have been significant blow back for carrying out a secret mission by ignoring international borders with a Nation you're not at war with and killing some of it's civilians en-route to going after Bin Laden. Being wrong would have ended his Presidency and he would have went down in history in disgrace. He gambled his entire political life on it with a 50/50 chance and Obama gambled right.

My point is that giving the order is never easy (the hardest thing to do) and could mean disastrous consequences if you're wrong. So Obama giving the order meant that he was the MAN and the soldiers faithfully carried out their mission with no US service men getting killed that night. Obama proved (for this history books) to be an amazing Peaceful / War time Commander.

Here's a good example. Consider me as Denzel in this clip with I B Lying. COG, DSK, or Mojo Rice, etc playing the role of the General (Bruce Willis)

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Look you bevel headed sap sucker, the Pakistanies gave UBL up. Maybe Obama threatened to cut back a few billion we give them in foreign aid. Seal team 6 flew over a military base that night to get there. The Pakistanie army was clearly told to stand down. We got in and out without a shot fired. It's the only success that Obama has to talk about. I'll give him that.
the racist conservative right is quick to say well Obama just gave the order and anyone can give an order. The fact is that had he been wrong there would have been significant blow back for carrying out a secret mission by ignoring international borders with a Nation you're not at war with and killing some of it's civilians en-route to going after Bin Laden. Being wrong would have ended his Presidency and he would have went down in history in disgrace. He gambled his entire political life on it with a 50/50 chance and Obama gambled right.

My point is that giving the order is never easy (the hardest thing to do) and could mean disastrous consequences if you're wrong. So Obama giving the order meant that he was the MAN and the soldiers faithfully carried out their mission with no US service men getting killed that night. Obama proved (for this history books) to be an amazing Peaceful / War time Commander.

Here's a good example. Consider me as Denzel in this clip with I B Lying. COG, DSK, or Mojo Rice, etc playing the role of the General (Bruce Willis)

Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
The death of Bin Laden didn't happen on Obama's watch, lol. Oh the movie clip, don't flatter yourself asshole. You're a classless piece of shit. You probably wear black shoes with a brown belt like a loser would.

Jim


Jim
lustylad's Avatar
Being wrong would have ended his Presidency and he would have went (sic) down in history in disgrace. He gambled his entire political life on it with a 50/50 chance and Obama gambled right. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
New thread to change the subject, Sissy Chap?

You are engaging in silly hyperbole when you claim it would have "ended his Presidency" if he had been wrong or the mission had gone awry. Most Americans would still have given him credit for making the attempt.

Funny how you omitted to mention that his dumbass adviser Valerie Jarrett talked him out of authorizing the Abbottabad raid TWICE. Ultimately it was Leon Panetta, Bob Gates, the joint chiefs and his entire national security/intelligence team who descended on him en masse and forced him to make the right call.
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More BS?

Obama can do no wrong and he really cares for you.

He sounds like a religious nut who wants to bring us to church.
  • DSK
  • 09-01-2016, 03:39 PM
the racist conservative right is quick to say well Obama just gave the order and anyone can give an order. The fact is that had he been wrong there would have been significant blow back for carrying out a secret mission by ignoring international borders with a Nation you're not at war with and killing some of it's civilians en-route to going after Bin Laden. Being wrong would have ended his Presidency and he would have went down in history in disgrace. He gambled his entire political life on it with a 50/50 chance and Obama gambled right.

My point is that giving the order is never easy (the hardest thing to do) and could mean disastrous consequences if you're wrong. So Obama giving the order meant that he was the MAN and the soldiers faithfully carried out their mission with no US service men getting killed that night. Obama proved (for this history books) to be an amazing Peaceful / War time Commander.

Here's a good example. Consider me as Denzel in this clip with I B Lying. COG, DSK, or Mojo Rice, etc playing the role of the General (Bruce Willis)

Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
Only a fool would risk his Presidency on a 50/50 suicide mission, unless all was lost anyway.

A coin flip to determine the difference between greatness and disgrace? Pitiful...
lustylad's Avatar
Only a fool would risk his Presidency on a 50/50 suicide mission, unless all was lost anyway.

A coin flip to determine the difference between greatness and disgrace? Pitiful... Originally Posted by DSK
Obama and Valerie Jarrett twiddled because they both fretted about the potential negative political fallout. The national security team had to buck him up and persuade him to put country ahead of politics. But there is likely more to the story than that.

Think about it in terms of a decision matrix. Put the decision (go/no go) on one axis, and the two possibilities (OBL/no OBL) on the other axis. Obama was motivated by Quadrant IV - fear of the negative political fallout if he said "no go" and we later learned it was OBL. If that happened and the news became public, it would indeed have been politically fatal for him.

So after considering all the options, Obama probably figured the politics of calling off the mission looked even riskier than going ahead with it.

Bottom line - not a hard decision.
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Obama and Valerie Jarrett twiddled because they both fretted about the potential negative political fallout. The national security team had to buck him up and persuade Obama to put country ahead of politics.

Think about it in terms of a decision matrix. Put the decision (go/no go) on one axis, and the two possibilities (it was/was not OBL) on the other axis. Obama was motivated by Quadrant IV - fear of the negative political fallout if he said "no go" and we later learned it was OBL. If that happened and the news became public, it would indeed have been politically fatal for him. Originally Posted by lustylad
The bottomline, it was a cakewalk. The fix was in. Much like Obama telling the DOJ and the FBI to give Hillary a pass. Pakistan made the drill easy on our troops. If they didn't crash a chopper, it was perfect. Besides, UBL was retired. He was brought to justice.
Sistine Chapel's Avatar
Only a fool would risk his Presidency on a 50/50 suicide mission, unless all was lost anyway.

A coin flip to determine the difference between greatness and disgrace? Pitiful... Originally Posted by DSK

Wrong dipshit. Life is a gamble and when the stakes are high you're faced with what will make or break you.

Would you risk a recent win of $50k for a shot at $1M (usd) on a 50/50 chance? You're a moron if you say no. Well you're that regardless.
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The bottomline, it was a cakewalk. The fix was in. Much like Obama telling the DOJ and the FBI to give Hillary a pass. Pakistan made the drill easy on our troops. If they didn't crash a chopper, it was perfect. Besides, UBL was retired. He was brought to justice. Originally Posted by bambino
You're just upset that a black man was the hero in this case. Obama avenged the death of 3,000 Americans and your lame ass can't accept it because he's black. Well guess what? To fucking bad!!!
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You're just upset that a black man was the hero in this case. Obama avenged the death of 3,000 Americans and your lame ass can't accept it because he's black. Well guess what? To fucking bad!!! Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
you are just upset that the pakis gave up their stooge Obama .. er .. Osama. he was being protected by the Pakistani Army .. until they decided that all that US Fed (fake false money loot) was worth enough to allow him to be betrayed.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ahhgahahahjahahahha

hahahahahahahahahahahahah

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour...sama-bin-laden

the TRUTH. bitch.

he was betrayed by the Paki's

have a fucking horrible day you miserable piece of shit
Sistine Chapel's Avatar
you are just upset that the pakis gave up their stooge Obama .. er .. Osama. he was being protected by the Pakistani Army .. until they decided that all that US Fed (fake false money loot) was worth enough to allow him to be betrayed.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ahhgahahahjahahahha

hahahahahahahahahahahahah

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour...sama-bin-laden

the TRUTH. bitch.

he was betrayed by the Paki's

have a fucking horrible day you miserable piece of shit Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
again your pussy is bleeding. Try tampon.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
again your pussy is bleeding. Try tampon. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
again, your libtard ass is full of cum.

homo





this is so GROSS!!!!!! you are a FAG! only assup fag and Ivan fag like you. go fuck yourself

you are woomby. we all know it. welcome back. GOOD BYE FAG!
Hahahahahaha. Dream on dumbass. Bin Laden was never part of 9/11 you fucking idiot. There is absolutely no evidence to support he was. Obama is a loser. His whole administration is nothing but a farce, lol.


Jim
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We got in and out without a shot fired. It's the only success that Obama has to talk about. I'll give him that. Originally Posted by bambino
It wasn't "his success" .... the development of the intelligence and interaction that established "permission" to enter their airspace began in the Bush Administration.

That's tantamount to saying JFK put a man on the moon!