List of immigration laws on books passed by the House and Senate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...migration_laws

Biden says his hands are tied and there is nothing he can do?
Do you edumacated voters remember with a stroke of pen he reversed all of Trumps policies that were working to reduce the influx of illegals.

Come on boys has that fact escaped your memory bank?

I suggest not you just don’t have the balls to admit Trumps governing Wes working.

In one day he can reinstate those tried and true policies and possibly enforce the laws already on the books. Instead he blames the Republicans for his complete ineptness to govern this country.

You edumacated boys might fall for that line of bullshit, but we others will put Trump back in the Oval, to straighten out this tragedy

I am pretty sure that we already have all the laws we need to shut down the border.

President Trump used many of them effectivly when he was in office . . .tyhey are still there to be used by the current administration.

Thread after thread of Biden in his head. I suggest you edit your posts before you post them. It might garner you more respect. Even if it's a constant barrage of Biden living in your head.

No one has been sued more than Trump over immigration policies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta...h=68aa370a7d8e

Maybe the laws need to change before the policies you espouse can be implemented and enforced.

Wonder why Trump is pushing Congress not to make an immigration deal.

NOT.

No one has been sued more than Trump over immigration policies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta...h=68aa370a7d8e

Maybe the laws need to change before the policies you espouse can be implemented and enforced. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

But but, but...that's not how the MAGA's see it!!!

They think everything is great since TRUMP broke laws and was sued, instead of doing things through legislation- and making the law changes permanent, and done properly, they want to see the same old guy doing the same "kingly declarations".

Trump has been sued and lost in so many trials, it' would be easier to see what ones he was sued and won - that's likely a very short list by comparison; with regards to immigration or ANY other topic. Stating a policy isn't a law. Biden's not interested in doing the same shitty policy game. He wants to get congress to fix the problem.

thats the difference.

Wonder why Trump is pushing Congress not to make an immigration deal.

NOT. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Because the deal sucks

Because the deal sucks Originally Posted by oilfieldace

In what way is that? Please be specific.

Wonder why Trump is pushing Congress not to make an immigration deal.

NOT. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Because the deal sucks Originally Posted by oilfieldace

Of course it sucks. It’s called compromise.

The reason that congress has such a low approval rating is because they are so dysfunctional. That’s because they don’t care about getting anything done but only care about winning.

We the people need to get them to change the paradigm. Winning should be about getting something done and not about making the other side lose. Just because the opposition loses doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ve won. The big loser in this case is everyone but the politicians.

... Enforce the LAWS already on the books.... Close the Border!

#### Salty

In what way is that? Please be specific. Originally Posted by eyecu2

How can anyone answer, where is the text? If the Dems wrote it nuff said

How can anyone answer, where is the text? If the Dems wrote it nuff said Originally Posted by oilfieldace

The Dems did not write it. Republican James Lankford of Oklahoma is the lead negotiator in the border security discussions. There are many, if not most, Republican Senators who will support any immigration bill. They obviously believe something new is needed.

Trump trying to kill any immigration bill is 100% political. It is the one bullet he has in his gun going into the fall election campaign. Trump does not even know what is in the bill. If this immigration bill fails to pass in the House, this will be worse for Republicans than Democrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...migration_laws

Biden says his hands are tied and there is nothing he can do?
Do you edumacated voters remember with a stroke of pen he reversed all of Trumps policies that were working to reduce the influx of illegals.

Come on boys has that fact escaped your memory bank?

I suggest not you just don’t have the balls to admit Trumps governing Wes working.

In one day he can reinstate those tried and true policies and possibly enforce the laws already on the books. Instead he blames the Republicans for his complete ineptness to govern this country. Originally Posted by oilfieldace

... Enforce the LAWS already on the books.... Close the Border!

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Gentlemen, I got into an argument with two friends the other day at lunch who believe exactly like you on this. We also discussed the impeachment of Mayorkas, which they favored because they said he wasn't enforcing the law. They made some good points so I went back and looked at this a little closer.

I'm convinced you're wrong on this. The laws currently in place, as interpreted by our courts, don't give the President or Department of Homeland Security a clear cut pathway to fix problems with asylum and parole.

These days, our problem isn't with people sneaking into the USA and avoiding the border patrol and law enforcement while stealing American jobs. Those types probably contribute more than they take. Or at least the ones who get fake social security cards and pay taxes without ever drawing government benefits are mostly net contributors.

The problem rather are people who turn themselves into Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) at first opportunity and claim asylum. Only a very small percentage are actual political refugees who deserve asylum, but under current law they get to go before a judge and have their cases heard. That takes years to happen, and in the meantime they often qualify for parole, during which time they're able to legally work and draw government benefits.

The Biden administration and DHS actually have tried to limit asylum. For example, since May of 2023, any immigrant who crossed the border illegally or traveled through another country and failed to seek asylum there, was turned back.

Trump tried to impose the same measures during his term in office. Biden and Trump's strategy though was shut down by the courts, specifically by U.S. District Judge Jon S. Tigar in California,

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07...ifornia-judge/

Trump and Biden used Title 42, invoked to stem the spread of COVID, to turn away asylum seekers. When COVID was winding down, this was challenged in the courts, and was headed towards probably being invalidated by the Supreme Court, before Biden made it a moot issue by withdrawing the use of Title 42 to prevent asylum applications. This was followed soon afterwards by Biden's measures described above that took effect in May, 2023.

Txdot's link covers other, older measures to slow down asylum and parole that were challenged by courts:

No one has been sued more than Trump over immigration policies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuarta...h=68aa370a7d8e

Maybe the laws need to change before the policies you espouse can be implemented and enforced. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Biden and Mayorkas probably have done a better job of complying with the law than Trump, Nielsen and Nazi Sympathizer Stephen Miller did. The increase in Border Patrol encounters with illegals since Biden became president probably is partly due to his administration following the law more closely.

The Dems did not write it. Republican James Lankford of Oklahoma is the lead negotiator in the border security discussions. There are many, if not most, Republican Senators who will support any immigration bill. They obviously believe something new is needed.

Trump trying to kill any immigration bill is 100% political. It is the one bullet he has in his gun going into the fall election campaign. Trump does not even know what is in the bill. If this immigration bill fails to pass in the House, this will be worse for Republicans than Democrats. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Bingo

You edumacated boys might fall for that line of bullshit, but we others will put Trump back in the Oval, to straighten out this tragedy Originally Posted by oilfieldace

If MAGA Republicans want a president and Congress that will help fix the problem, they need to nominate like-minded candidates (on immigration) who can win. Trump and MAGA Republican candidates in purple districts are losers. In the meantime, assuming it turns out to be a good bill, why not pass Lankford's proposed legislation? It would give Biden, and Trump if he's the next president, the power to shut down asylum applications now. And Biden says he'd use it now. What's the downside in that?

This is another one of those “we need to pass it so we can see what’s in it”.

We do not need more laws for Biden to ignore. He simply needs to follow the laws already on the books.

Of course, that gets in the way of the Liberal/Socialist/Progressive/Democrat agenda, which is to fundamentally change the United States through illegal immigration.

Not legal immigration, because that would take far too long.

Tiny gets it.

The way the current law is written, it does not give the type of enforceable legal firepower, that a few tweaks and changes would help accomplish. If an executive order is the way that Trump wanted to fix his vision of the border issue, any POTUS following can change that with another executive order. It doesn't fix it it just kicks the can down the road.

Likely all of Congress needs to address the border issues and immigration - I don't think this is a presidential order / policy decision. The United States citizens deserve better and all of the Congress should be weighing in with making sure that the remedy is a bipartisan one.