Ok, so theres been alot of debate around the state of the economy and the affects on the "poor". I guess it would be cool to see what peoples perspective are on what it means to be "POOR" in this wonderfull country we reside.Is "poor" a state of mind? Is "poor" when you have no money and they shut off the cable? Is "poor" a family value? Is "poor" due to religion, or lack there of?Is "poor" lack of education or institutions that provide it? Who determine how to measure "poor"?Is freedom the best antidote to "poor", can people decide what "poor" is for themselves and decide what to do about it ?...I guess to me, "poor" is an economy where I cant see the usual 4 ATF,s per month and have to cut it down to 1 Originally Posted by JONBALLSI have read your post several times now and cannot tell if you are serious or not. I suspect you are not because you ask a serious question but mostly give platitude type politician speak answers and seem to avoid serious answers. But at the risk of giving a serious answer to what was intended to be a joke I will toss some thoughts on the pile.
But at the end of the day, I have never taken government money (no welfare/foodstamps/medicaid/unemployment). There is always a way to survive. You just have to be willing to work. And work unpleasant jobs. 10 hours a day in a dishpit in a busy restaurant for less than $80 a day can be a shitty job but it is still a job. And it is better than having nothing. Originally Posted by SillyGirlSG-First of all, unemployment is not a government handout. It is insurance that you have qualified for through your work history. It is an earned benefit.
I guess it would be cool to see what peoples perspective are on what it means to be "POOR" in this wonderfull country we reside. Originally Posted by JONBALLS
I have read your post several times now and cannot tell if you are serious or not. I suspect you are not because you ask a serious question but mostly give platitude type politician speak answers and seem to avoid serious answers. But at the risk of giving a serious answer to what was intended to be a jokelong and short is that I am intreseted in everyones perspective as the posters on this site have taught me alot and I value the opinions.It is not intended as a joke, but as the OP, it is fine with me if we can mix humor and tongue and cheek into the mix to break things up. I mentioned the provider refrence as tongue in cheek to show that humor can be inserted and appreciated. I appreciate and agree with portions of your post and thanks...I give permission as the OP for this thread to go into whatever direction the intresting people of this site want to take it.. Thanks to all...... and great to see some WOMEN responding..
First, "poor" is ill defined and over used in my mind. Many claim to be poor who I do not think are by a definition I would use for myself, so in that case, to a limited degree, I think "poor" is a self-inflicted state of mind for some. Originally Posted by Old-T
maybe you would propose that we drown them as they do in other cultures/countries? Originally Posted by charlestudor2005Ohhh Come on, you had me agreeing with you to apoint and then, this towards her...?...now your just being "SILLY"...I totally agree with helping the severe disability.I have a neighbor that is in need of a kidney transplant. Medicare takes care of dialisis, but they wont put him on the transplant list untill he can set up the correct perscription plan, he currently is self employed and is working to get that accomplished. I also know of an able bodied 22 yr old female that gets enormous assisstance for a child she had with a gang banger that is currently serving time for murder. The State suppliments her living enough to where a job is not beneficial so she doesnt enter the workforce, and the state also pays for the boyfriends encarceration. Maybe there is a way to restructure the system a bit. Just a thought..If someone is young, in great health maybe a litttle less sent there and a litttle more to the physically unable, or is this just a symplistic and unrealistic view?
SG-First of all, unemployment is not a government handout. It is insurance that you have qualified for through your work history. It is an earned benefit.You seem to have been taking lessons from some of the boys in Kansas City.
Second, there may always be a way for you to survive. But that is not true of everyone. Tell me how a quadriplegic with no family and no trust fund and no job is going to get a job in a dishpit? Or any other job? Most persons with severe disabilities need assistance. Or, maybe you would propose that we drown them as they do in other cultures/countries? Originally Posted by charlestudor2005