Hungary’s Orban says Trump won’t give a penny to Ukraine

Trump will end the war by helping Putin win. Simple. And brutal.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...hungarys-orban


Trump Won't Give Money to Ukraine if Elected, Says Hungary's Orban


BUDAPEST (Reuters) - Former U.S. leader Donald Trump will not give money to help Ukraine fight Russia if he wins the presidency again and that will hasten an end to the war, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said after meeting him.

Nationalist premier Orban, who is backing his long-time ally's bid to return to White House, met Trump in Florida on Friday.

"He will not give a penny into the Ukraine-Russia war and therefore the war will end," Orban told state television late on Sunday. "As it is obvious that Ukraine on its own cannot stand on its feet."

"If the Americans do not give money and weapons, and also the Europeans, then this war will be over. And if the Americans do not give money the Europeans are unable to finance this war on their own, and then the war will end."

Orban has refused to send weapons to Kyiv and kept up close economic ties with Moscow since Russian forces invaded Ukraine in 2022. He last met Russian President Vladimir Putin in October in China despite European Union efforts to isolate Moscow.

Orban said it was "another matter" how the war will be closed with peace talks after a truce, and how a stable and safe Europe would be created, but first peace must be achieved and "he (Trump) has the means for that."

A statement from Trump's campaign did not mention Ukraine, saying the pair discussed issues affecting both nations including their respective border security.

European leaders have long been nervous that another Trump presidency would mean waning U.S. support for both Ukraine and the NATO transatlantic military alliance.

So the future of Ukraine is in Trump's hands?

... Settle the dispute... There's no reason for more funding.

#### Salty

Why does the US need to be everyone's ATM?

... Settle the dispute... There's no reason for more funding.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

What's your suggestion? How much land should the Ukrainians cede to Russia?

What's your suggestion? How much land should the Ukrainians cede to Russia? Originally Posted by 1blackman1

None.

What's your suggestion? How much land should the Ukrainians cede to Russia? Originally Posted by 1blackman1

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None. Originally Posted by Levianon17

a large part of this is the fact that Ukraine reneged on an agreement to allow a referendum on the Donbas region being annexed by Russia and if the vote had occurred as planned the Donbas being heavily ethic Russian would have certainly voted yes on this annexation.



so Ukraine intentionally stalled that referendum from being held. some of that was not Zelenzky's fault as this happened before he became president but he also had more than enough time to move forward and did not.


what did Zelensky do? launched a military crackdown on Donbas. what did Putin do then? invaded.


face it this conflict is the direct result of the US and NATO repeatedly reneging on prior agreements one of which was no eastward expansion of NATO. when a couple little lackey former Soviet block nations asked to join NATO, NATO welcomed them in with open arms.



what did Russia do? nothing because Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania for example are not really a threat to Russia even if it was against the prior agreement of no NATO eastward expansion.


the reason Putin invaded under Biden is clear. Biden and the dems once again began rattling their sabres for Ukraine to be admitted to NATO. the reason Putin did nothing under Trump is also clear, Trump would have vetoed admitting Ukraine.


Ukraine is a much different thing than tiny Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania being in NATO


this is a proxy war intentionally created by the CIA deep state and the Democrats.


fuck Ukraine. and Russia too. let them kill themselves off. the world will be better without them both.

I was already going to vote for him, thanks for the affirmation tho.

Once again we Americans make the mistake in forgetting that Eastern Europeans do not think the way we think, especially when it comes to politics.

Our seemingly never ending hatred for anything Russian has allied us with one of the most corrupt countries in Europe. We think of Ukraine as being a democracy, when in truth, it is run more like a dictatorship. This guy Zelenskyy will not give up power, even when the “war” ends.
But we want to keep sending billions, while the countries closest to Russia skate by with token contributions.

Germany and France should be the countries footing the bill for this war. They are the ones that have the most to loose.

a large part of this is the fact that Ukraine reneged on an agreement to allow a referendum on the Donbas region being annexed by Russia and if the vote had occurred as planned the Donbas being heavily ethic Russian would have certainly voted yes on this annexation.



so Ukraine intentionally stalled that referendum from being held. some of that was not Zelenzky's fault as this happened before he became president but he also had more than enough time to move forward and did not.


what did Zelensky do? launched a military crackdown on Donbas. what did Putin do then? invaded.


face it this conflict is the direct result of the US and NATO repeatedly reneging on prior agreements one of which was no eastward expansion of NATO. when a couple little lackey former Soviet block nations asked to join NATO, NATO welcomed them in with open arms.



what did Russia do? nothing because Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania for example are not really a threat to Russia even if it was against the prior agreement of no NATO eastward expansion.


the reason Putin invaded under Biden is clear. Biden and the dems once again began rattling their sabres for Ukraine to be admitted to NATO. the reason Putin did nothing under Trump is also clear, Trump would have vetoed admitting Ukraine.


Ukraine is a much different thing than tiny Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania being in NATO


this is a proxy war intentionally created by the CIA deep state and the Democrats.


fuck Ukraine. and Russia too. let them kill themselves off. the world will be better without them both. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Yeah, I agree this is Ukraine and Russia's dilemma. America has no strategic interest in this.

Yeah, I agree this is Ukraine and Russia's dilemma. America has no strategic interest in this. Originally Posted by Levianon17

America's interest is strictly political and imperialist. once again the US wants to play "regime change" .. maybe the "regime change" needs to happen in America.

America's interest is strictly political and imperialist. once again the US wants to play "regime change" .. maybe the "regime change" needs to happen in America. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Absolutely.

What's your suggestion? How much land should the Ukrainians cede to Russia? Originally Posted by 1blackman1

... A very good question.

... Maybe some. Maybe none... There should be negotiation.
WHY isn't President Biden demanding this?
He's just 'anding over money with no accountability.

... Former President Trump has stated, several times
in fact, that He could negotiate a settlement in two days.

So --- do they just take more money and wait for
next January?? ...

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