I Won't Be Watching the Debates If This Keeps Up . . . .

eccieuser9500's Avatar
Will there be another one? Did Dumpy deliberately crash the debate so there is no chance at a second. Who wants another?

Face-à-face Trump-Biden : un débat inquiétant pour la démocratie américaine


https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article...4200_3232.html


Une telle négation du civisme de la part d’un président des Etats-Unis laisse pantois. Sur la forme, l’agressivité et l’indiscipline de Donald Trump pendant ce pugilat verbal de 90 minutes n’auront pas étonné ceux qui le suivent depuis sa première campagne électorale : il a mené le débat comme il tweete, à coups d’invectives, d’autoglorification et d’accusations gratuites, sans le moindre scrupule. Les démocrates font mine de s’en offusquer, mais la base électorale du président apprécie sa combativité. C’est à cet électorat-là qu’il s’est adressé, afin de le remobiliser, face à des sondages qui le donnent perdant à ce stade. Joe Biden s’y attendait et s’était fixé comme stratégie de rester calme, sans se laisser démonter par la déferlante : il s’y est tenu.













Inspired by Tiny's lastest thread.

And the NFL/NBA/NHL threads.
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
why in french? you must be lazy to translate and copy/paste in english.
eccieuser9500's Avatar
The first presidential debate was an embarrassment for the US and international news outlets came down on it harshly


https://www.businessinsider.com/firs...l-stage-2020-9


"The rest of the world — and future historians — will presumably look at it and weep," The Guardian's David Smith wrote about Tuesday's debate.

Smith noted that Biden is still favored to win, but should he lose, "this dark, horrifying, unwatchable fever dream will surely be the first line of America's obituary."
















eccieuser9500's Avatar
why in french? you must be lazy to translate and copy/paste in english. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
Lazy? Why don't you start by capitalizing your sentences before you call someone else lazy?


It all translates the same. Whatever language. Martians would know Dump is a piece of shit. Who could believe he's the POTUS?












Strokey_McDingDong's Avatar
I highly doubt the debates are going to be canceled or that T R U M P had a coherent plan going into the first one.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Lazy? Why don't you start by capitalizing your sentences before you call someone else lazy?


It all translates the same. Whatever language. Martians would know Dump is a piece of shit. Who could believe he's the POTUS?

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
the French don't vote in US elections. so you point as usual is moot


"The French are the whores of the world"

use your massive googie skill and tell me why that phrase exists ..


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eccieuser9500's Avatar
No need to Google. For the French, sex and money go together. But I'll look it up anyway. Post later.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
No need to Google. For the French, sex and money go together. But I'll look it up anyway. Post later. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

include Vichy France for better results



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eccieuser9500's Avatar
glocktalk? . com? First of only two links Google found.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/je...#post-24552343

Also, the French have a peculiar sense of humor. Think Jerry Lewis. Is anything sacred? Some say NO! I tend to agree. I consider a woman's health to be sacred. But that's just me.

I take it it stems from the Je Sui Charlie Ebdo terror attacks. Whatever happened to French Toast?
Strokey_McDingDong's Avatar
Why don't they have the debates between the nominees instead of answering random questions from a moderator? Whole system is gay af.
eccieuser9500's Avatar
include Vichy France for better results
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Thank you. Seriously.

Bucolic and Walled-In: Prostitutes and the Vichy Regime


https://www.cairn-int.info/article-E...tutes-and.htm#


Back in the dark years of France, prostitution was uniquely adorned. Although the commercial aspect of the activity did not undergo radical transformations, the conditions created by the occupation, which were intensified by the rise to power of a highly conservative administration, were at the source of changes in the decision-making sphere, and gave way to original practices. On the basis of untapped legal records, this article describes several aspects of prostitution in France under the Vichy regime, while preserving the point of view of the prostitute and the exercise of her profession.













winn dixie's Avatar
Fuck france! Rude people and very ugly women. Cant trust those bastards on the battle field either!
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Fuck france! Rude people and very ugly women. Cant trust those bastards on the battle field either! Originally Posted by winn dixie
I think it’s t8me to bring it back, WD, don’t you think?

It’s an Austin tradition, but spoken of in hushed terms as far north as south of Chicago.

I think you have just thrown your 10-gallon hat in the ring, WD.

YOU MAY WIN THIS year?

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winn dixie's Avatar
I think it’s t8me to bring it back, WD, don’t you think?

It’s an Austin tradition, but spoken of in hushed terms as far north as south of Chicago.

I think you have just thrown your 10-gallon hat in the ring, WD.

YOU MAY WIN THIS year?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJA Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
This is actually funny!
You posting from clarksville or canadja?
Asking for a friend. yous funnies guy yous
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
Thank you. Seriously.

Bucolic and Walled-In: Prostitutes and the Vichy Regime


https://www.cairn-int.info/article-E...tutes-and.htm#

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

if yous say so


Was Vichy France a Puppet Government or a Willing Nazi Collaborator?

The authoritarian government led by Marshal Pétain participated in Jewish expulsions and turned France into a quasi-police state

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...zis-180967160/


How France’s Vichy Regime Became Hitler’s Willing Collaborators

https://jacobinmag.com/2020/07/vichy...r-world-war-ii



Philippe Pétain and Adolf Hitler in 1940. Photo: German Federal Archive


It’s eighty years today since the notorious Vichy regime took power in France under Nazi domination. Vichy-style fascism wasn’t simply a German plant on French soil — it drew on powerful reactionary currents in French politics and society.


The Vichy regime in France was established on July 10, 1940, following the French surrender to Germany. The terms of the armistice divided France into an occupied zone covering the north and west of the country, and the so-called free zone in the south. Marshal Philippe Pétain, a hero of the First World War for his role in the defence of Verdun, became the leader of the new regime, having been granted full powers by both chambers of parliament.

Pétain and his entourage saw the defeat of France and the collapse of the Third Republic as a chance to wipe out the legacy of permissiveness and decadence represented by the left-wing Popular Front government of the 1930s and the French Revolution. The Vichy ruler dispensed with parliamentary democracy and engaged in a policy of collaboration with Nazi Germany, hailing it as a new beginning for France — a “National Revolution.” Charles Maurras, the ideologue of the antisemitic Action Française movement, welcomed these developments as a “divine surprise.”

National Myth

After the defeat of Nazi Germany, a carefully constructed national myth obscured the reality of the Vichy regime. Charles de Gaulle, leader of the Free French forces, propagated that myth, and historians echoed it for many years. School textbooks depicted wartime France as a nation of resisters who had refused to collaborate with the occupier. Influential historical accounts, like Robert Aron’s Histoire de Vichy, depicted Pétain as a “shield” and De Gaulle as a “sword,” each of whom had been necessary in their different ways for the defense of French interests.


At the time of the liberation, De Gaulle claimed that “only a handful of scoundrels” had behaved badly during the occupation: the rest of the country could look themselves in the eye as patriots. This “sublime half-lie,” as Henry Rousso dubbed it, formed the basis for postwar attempts at national reconciliation, symbolized in 1964 by the transfer of the remains of resistance hero Jean Moulin to the Pantheon in an elaborate two-day ceremony.

Although critical accounts of the regime did appear in French during this period, such as Henri Michel’s Vichy: Année 40, it was research by foreign historians that overturned these postwar conceptions of the regime. After the publication of studies by Stanley Hoffmann, Alan Milward, and Eberhard Jäckel (whose Frankreich in Hitlers Europa has yet to be translated into French), it was Robert O. Paxton’s Vichy France: Old Guard and New Order, 1940–1944 that blew away the established consensus about Vichy as a structure that protected French interests and resisted Nazi demands.


Coming in the wake of the May 1968 revolt and the death of De Gaulle, Paxton’s book turned the study of Vichy on its head, with an impact matched by very few historical works, inspiring talk of a “Paxtonian revolution.” As Paxton himself has been careful to stress, it was May ’68 that had proved the decisive element here, as “students began challenging their elders’ reticence,” and the French started to confront “the dark side of their response to Nazi occupation.”

Collaboration, Paxton argued, was not merely a catastrophe forced upon France by military defeat, but part of an internal French conflict with a much longer history. It was something actively sought by the Vichy leaders, not a demand placed upon France by Germany. Conservative, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary traditions incubated in France itself underpinned the politics of the regime. Vichy was not a “lesser evil.”


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