Obama is sending another 200 special operators to Syria to fight against ISIS. The 50 that he sent there months ago have had some good success and so now Obama is going to up the ante. Some of you will, in a knee jerk fashion, say that Obama doesn't get any credit for anything he does. Here is the reality; Obama was told months (if not years) ago that he needed to have boots on the ground in both Iraq and Syria. He didn't listen and ISIS thrived. They murdered thousands of people on the most sadistic fashion and destroyed antiquities going back 3,000 years but Obama did nothing. Finally comes an election year and Obama decides to act but only in very small way. He sees some success and he delays further. He sees some more success and he decides to put some money in the pot. What he cannot figure out (and his supporters are the same) that if he had gone all in two years ago thousands would still be alive, Russia would not have gotten a foothold in Syria, and ISIS would be bad memory.
So, NO, Obama does not get credit for doing what everyone has been telling him to do.
- JD Barleycorn
- 04-24-2016, 07:22 PM
- IIFFOFRDB
- 04-24-2016, 08:22 PM
Putin squirted a little giddy up and go his 0zombie ass. Just like he likes it...
Kind of like this...
Kind of like this...
- lustylad
- 04-24-2016, 11:10 PM
It gets worse. The only reason Obama is doing more is because the Russians are outplaying him again. They're stepping up to arm the Iraqi Kurds, our best ally in the whole mess. Odumbo keeps promising more support to the Peshmerga and not delivering it. He always has an excuse for inaction - he says everything has to go through the Government in Baghdad. So now the Rooskis are jumping at the chance to show the Kurds THEY are a more reliable partner than WE are. This is huge. We keep saying we're going to drive ISIS out of Mosul (which never would have fallen if Odumbo hadn't stupidly and prematurely pulled all US forces out of Iraq in 2011) but the Russians would love to out-maneuver us and take credit when it happens. It's so painful to watch this shit! Like watching a chess master run circles around an autistic checkers player.
Russia Pursues Ties With Kurds to Keep Foothold in Region
Kremlin says it has sent troops to fight with Kurdish units in Syria and is providing weapons to Kurds in Iraq
By Thomas Grove in Moscow and Ben Kesling in Sulaymaniyah, Iraq
April 21, 2016 7:58 a.m. ET
The Russian government says it has sent troops to fight alongside Kurdish units in northwestern Syria and is providing weapons to Iraqi Kurds in a tactic that could upstage a long-standing U.S. alliance with the stateless ethnic group and increase Moscow’s influence in the region.
Russian and Kurdish officials say the Kremlin intends to keep a foothold in the area by cultivating ties with some Kurdish groups through weapons, ammunition and oil deals, building on its presence established through its relationship with Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
Russia’s support appears to be focused on one group in western Syria, the Afrin Kurds, an American defense official said.
The Afrin Kurds have not been backed by the U.S., which has supported an umbrella group of Syrian Kurdish fighters, known as the People’s Defense Units, or YPG.
The U.S. relies on Kurdish militants in Syria as one of its most effective allies in the fight against Islamic State. That support has angered Turkey, which sees the YPG as a threat for its close ties with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK.
The PKK is considered a terrorist group by the U.S., Turkey and the European Union.
The Kremlin’s maneuver comes amid U.S. concerns that Russia is redeploying troops and weapons in Syria in preparation for a return to full-scale fighting in the near future.
Russian President Vladimir Putin last week said Russian soldiers have been fighting alongside Syrian Kurds around the strategic battleground of Aleppo, although American intelligence officials questioned whether those troops were on the front lines.
The American officials said Mr. Putin’s announcement was likely a provocation against the U.S. and Turkey.
Russia maintains two bases in Syria, and an unknown number of troops and aircraft, and officials say the country’s forces still provide some air support and targeting information on the ground to allies there.
Russia and the U.S. are also both supporting Kurdish fighters battling Islamic State in Iraq. The Pentagon announced Monday it would be increasing its presence in Iraq and providing an additional $415 million in aid to the Iraqi Kurdish fighters, known as Peshmerga. The U.S. currently has an advising and training mission with the Peshmerga and occasionally partners with them on special operations missions, according to Col. Steve Warren, spokesman for the Pentagon in Iraq.
Russian officials have disclosed recently that they are supplying more weapons to Iraqi Kurds as that group prepares to step up its fight against Islamic State and help in the eventual battle for Mosul.
The Pentagon remains unruffled by Russian overtures to the Kurds in Iraq and isn’t scrambling to counter them, Col. Warren said. “The Russians have been selling arms to various players in Iraq for 50 years,” Col. Warren said.
Mark Katz, a professor at George Mason University who focuses on Russian foreign policy affairs, said, however, that Moscow’s move might goad the Americans into stepping up arms supplies to prevent Russia from gaining the upper hand.
“Even if the U.S. hasn’t been forthcoming,” Mr. Katz said, “maybe a little competition from Russia can get the U.S. to do so.”
Russian outreach to the Kurds follows friction with Turkey. After Turkey downed a Russian Su-24 warplane late last year, Russia quickly pressed Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to demand Kurdish participation in Syrian peace talks, a move seen as a direct swipe at Ankara.
Before Russia’s intervention, the Kurds had no champion and no substantial claim to be part of the peace talks. Last month, Mr. Erdogan warned Russia it was risking its own security by aligning itself with the Syrian Kurds.
Turkey is embroiled in a multi-front battle with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party—the PKK—and Ankara has watched with alarm as the U.S. has deepened its ties with the Syrian affiliate of the PKK.
In political circles, Russia’s outreach to Kurds in Iraq is raising concern about more tension between Moscow and Washington, which wants to keep Iraq a unitary state.
“Russia will take on any opportunity it can to undermine U.S. interests globally, but they don’t always think through the consequences,” said Rep. Seth Moulton (D., Mass.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee. “We’re concerned about the long-term stability of Iraq and I don’t think they are.”
Russian officials say their most recent arms package to the Iraqi Kurds, mostly small arms, arrived in mid-March; a delegation from Kurdistan visited Moscow this month to discuss the matter. A Kurdish delegation will also travel to St. Petersburg in June, according to the Russian ambassador to Iraq.
Authorities in Erbil, Iraqi Kurdistan’s capital, said they are expecting another delivery of more advanced weapons in May.
The arms deliveries are a potentially sensitive point for the Iraqi government. The Kurdish Regional Government in Erbil enjoys a high degree of autonomy, but controlling arms distribution has been a key way for Baghdad to keep the Kurds tied to the federal government.
Other weapons shipments may not have to be agreed to with Baghdad, said two officials, one with knowledge of Russia’s diplomatic efforts with the Kurds and another one with close to the Russian Defense Ministry.
“There are several levels of arms deliveries,” said the official close to the Defense Ministry. “On one level, we deliver weapons only through the capital, but with an order from the president we can also bypass the capitals involved or deliver through more covert means, like a special operation.”
The Iraqi ministry of defense didn’t respond to repeated requests for comment.
Last month , during a conference in the Kurdish town of Sulaymaniyah, Staff Gen. Araz Abdul Qadir, a Peshmerga brigade commander, said the Kurds support bypassing Baghdad to get arms. “It’s a long way from Baghdad,” he said. “Make it shorter, we have an airport in Erbil.”
At the same conference, Amb. Ilya Margonov, Russia’s ambassador to Iraq, said in an interview that Moscow continues to honor its agreement to send all Kurdish armaments through the central government, but that he expected top Kurdish officials for direct talks in Moscow over the summer. He also said Moscow will likely be willing to supply weapons that require advanced training.
“If the Kurds express some desire to receive more advanced weapons we will discuss that with Baghdad,” he said.
For decades Russia, has struck a delicate balance between supporting the Kurds, and the governments of the countries they live in: Iran, Syria, Turkey and Iraq.
During the Soviet era, Moscow hosted Kurds fleeing violence in the region, notably hosting a young Masoud Barzani, Iraqi Kurdistan’s current president, after his father escaped the fall of a Soviet-backed Kurdish republic in Iran in 1946.
Kurdish fighters’ well-publicized successes against Islamic State, and a perception in the region that Americans haven’t given full-bore support, have given Moscow new reason to boost ties with a group likely to play a strong role in a new Syria.
“There is no doubt that the Kurdish factors will be one of the most important factors in the Middle East transformation in years to come,“ said Fyodor Lukyanov, head of a Kremlin advisory body known as Russia’s Council on Foreign and Defense Policy.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-p...ion-1461239887
Russia Pursues Ties With Kurds to Keep Foothold in Region
Kremlin says it has sent troops to fight with Kurdish units in Syria and is providing weapons to Kurds in Iraq
By Thomas Grove in Moscow and Ben Kesling in Sulaymaniyah, Iraq
April 21, 2016 7:58 a.m. ET
The Russian government says it has sent troops to fight alongside Kurdish units in northwestern Syria and is providing weapons to Iraqi Kurds in a tactic that could upstage a long-standing U.S. alliance with the stateless ethnic group and increase Moscow’s influence in the region.
Russian and Kurdish officials say the Kremlin intends to keep a foothold in the area by cultivating ties with some Kurdish groups through weapons, ammunition and oil deals, building on its presence established through its relationship with Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
Russia’s support appears to be focused on one group in western Syria, the Afrin Kurds, an American defense official said.
The Afrin Kurds have not been backed by the U.S., which has supported an umbrella group of Syrian Kurdish fighters, known as the People’s Defense Units, or YPG.
The U.S. relies on Kurdish militants in Syria as one of its most effective allies in the fight against Islamic State. That support has angered Turkey, which sees the YPG as a threat for its close ties with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK.
The PKK is considered a terrorist group by the U.S., Turkey and the European Union.
The Kremlin’s maneuver comes amid U.S. concerns that Russia is redeploying troops and weapons in Syria in preparation for a return to full-scale fighting in the near future.
Russian President Vladimir Putin last week said Russian soldiers have been fighting alongside Syrian Kurds around the strategic battleground of Aleppo, although American intelligence officials questioned whether those troops were on the front lines.
The American officials said Mr. Putin’s announcement was likely a provocation against the U.S. and Turkey.
Russia maintains two bases in Syria, and an unknown number of troops and aircraft, and officials say the country’s forces still provide some air support and targeting information on the ground to allies there.
Russia and the U.S. are also both supporting Kurdish fighters battling Islamic State in Iraq. The Pentagon announced Monday it would be increasing its presence in Iraq and providing an additional $415 million in aid to the Iraqi Kurdish fighters, known as Peshmerga. The U.S. currently has an advising and training mission with the Peshmerga and occasionally partners with them on special operations missions, according to Col. Steve Warren, spokesman for the Pentagon in Iraq.
Russian officials have disclosed recently that they are supplying more weapons to Iraqi Kurds as that group prepares to step up its fight against Islamic State and help in the eventual battle for Mosul.
The Pentagon remains unruffled by Russian overtures to the Kurds in Iraq and isn’t scrambling to counter them, Col. Warren said. “The Russians have been selling arms to various players in Iraq for 50 years,” Col. Warren said.
Mark Katz, a professor at George Mason University who focuses on Russian foreign policy affairs, said, however, that Moscow’s move might goad the Americans into stepping up arms supplies to prevent Russia from gaining the upper hand.
“Even if the U.S. hasn’t been forthcoming,” Mr. Katz said, “maybe a little competition from Russia can get the U.S. to do so.”
Russian outreach to the Kurds follows friction with Turkey. After Turkey downed a Russian Su-24 warplane late last year, Russia quickly pressed Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to demand Kurdish participation in Syrian peace talks, a move seen as a direct swipe at Ankara.
Before Russia’s intervention, the Kurds had no champion and no substantial claim to be part of the peace talks. Last month, Mr. Erdogan warned Russia it was risking its own security by aligning itself with the Syrian Kurds.
Turkey is embroiled in a multi-front battle with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party—the PKK—and Ankara has watched with alarm as the U.S. has deepened its ties with the Syrian affiliate of the PKK.
In political circles, Russia’s outreach to Kurds in Iraq is raising concern about more tension between Moscow and Washington, which wants to keep Iraq a unitary state.
“Russia will take on any opportunity it can to undermine U.S. interests globally, but they don’t always think through the consequences,” said Rep. Seth Moulton (D., Mass.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee. “We’re concerned about the long-term stability of Iraq and I don’t think they are.”
Russian officials say their most recent arms package to the Iraqi Kurds, mostly small arms, arrived in mid-March; a delegation from Kurdistan visited Moscow this month to discuss the matter. A Kurdish delegation will also travel to St. Petersburg in June, according to the Russian ambassador to Iraq.
Authorities in Erbil, Iraqi Kurdistan’s capital, said they are expecting another delivery of more advanced weapons in May.
The arms deliveries are a potentially sensitive point for the Iraqi government. The Kurdish Regional Government in Erbil enjoys a high degree of autonomy, but controlling arms distribution has been a key way for Baghdad to keep the Kurds tied to the federal government.
Other weapons shipments may not have to be agreed to with Baghdad, said two officials, one with knowledge of Russia’s diplomatic efforts with the Kurds and another one with close to the Russian Defense Ministry.
“There are several levels of arms deliveries,” said the official close to the Defense Ministry. “On one level, we deliver weapons only through the capital, but with an order from the president we can also bypass the capitals involved or deliver through more covert means, like a special operation.”
The Iraqi ministry of defense didn’t respond to repeated requests for comment.
Last month , during a conference in the Kurdish town of Sulaymaniyah, Staff Gen. Araz Abdul Qadir, a Peshmerga brigade commander, said the Kurds support bypassing Baghdad to get arms. “It’s a long way from Baghdad,” he said. “Make it shorter, we have an airport in Erbil.”
At the same conference, Amb. Ilya Margonov, Russia’s ambassador to Iraq, said in an interview that Moscow continues to honor its agreement to send all Kurdish armaments through the central government, but that he expected top Kurdish officials for direct talks in Moscow over the summer. He also said Moscow will likely be willing to supply weapons that require advanced training.
“If the Kurds express some desire to receive more advanced weapons we will discuss that with Baghdad,” he said.
For decades Russia, has struck a delicate balance between supporting the Kurds, and the governments of the countries they live in: Iran, Syria, Turkey and Iraq.
During the Soviet era, Moscow hosted Kurds fleeing violence in the region, notably hosting a young Masoud Barzani, Iraqi Kurdistan’s current president, after his father escaped the fall of a Soviet-backed Kurdish republic in Iran in 1946.
Kurdish fighters’ well-publicized successes against Islamic State, and a perception in the region that Americans haven’t given full-bore support, have given Moscow new reason to boost ties with a group likely to play a strong role in a new Syria.
“There is no doubt that the Kurdish factors will be one of the most important factors in the Middle East transformation in years to come,“ said Fyodor Lukyanov, head of a Kremlin advisory body known as Russia’s Council on Foreign and Defense Policy.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-p...ion-1461239887
- Yssup Rider
- 04-24-2016, 11:25 PM
No link again.
- lustylad
- 04-24-2016, 11:38 PM
- i'va biggen
- 04-25-2016, 05:49 AM
- DSK
- 04-25-2016, 08:16 AM
- Rey Lengua
- 04-25-2016, 09:59 AM
- i'va biggen
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