Where did honesty go?

Remember when you could pay the provider at end of session.
Or how about when you hand the provider money and she ran out the door.

or how about pictures that were real.

or how about handing the provider the money and you get nothing except a dance.

Why can't you pay at the end of the session? I've had a lot of guys do this.

You dance with the devil on this earth and old school is out.

Shayla...If you don't collect the money first some men won't pay you...be careful.better count it too.

Why can't you pay at the end of the session? I've had a lot of guys do this. Originally Posted by Shayla

Shayla...If you don't collect the money first some men won't pay you...be careful.better count it too. Originally Posted by pickupkid

Oh, and you need one of these too:

(Counterfeit Money Detectors), a providers best friend and only cost you @$30. Hell, SL will pay that up front if you'll just tell him you're going to NCNS him. He'd rather know so that he doesn't have to look for you, only to find you downstairs at the bar, drunk and cursing out some bar patron. Right SL?

Anyway, back on track, she shouldn't have to ask. Go with the moment. Hell, if it jumps right off, then go with it and discretely pay at the end. Just don't do that conterfeit stuff. You guys are killing us "honest" hobbyists, LOL!

Yeah no matter how long I've known them, I always get the money first. Sadly, had to learn the hard way when I was younger, for every sweet and honest person there is a some one shady and up to no good.


That's the only input I can contribute to this thread.

The hobby is based on deception, so get your funds up front.

Remember when you could pay the provider at end of session.
Or how about when you hand the provider money and she ran out the door.

or how about pictures that were real.

or how about handing the provider the money and you get nothing except a dance. Originally Posted by pickupkid

from what Ive heard from other girls since I started doing this..

1) Sadly its because girls are forced to do this because they trusted the guy would be honest and it back fired on them.

2) You obviously didn't do your research/homework and went with a non reviewed or reputable lady (I think y'all call this taking one for the team) lol

3) see #2

4) see #2





I personally have never had a problem, luckily.

Sweet I am happy that this has never happen...but we live an unhonest world and many providers have been shanked members of our group.So please collect the money up front.

You want "true" honesty on a SHMB board? Are you getting me? There is so much deception on so many levels that I could not name them all. If you want honesty, then give the ladies your real name, where you live and your home phone number so that when a provider whom you have seen can call your wife not if, but when they get upset in the slightest with you, and tell them what you really do for a living.

I will not even go there on what the provider is telling "little white lies" about. This is a "fantasy" world on this board.

As far as hobby etiquette goes, that is another "ball of wax". You do develop a "rep" about your etiquette and so is the number of providers you can see, vice versa the number of hobbyists that call on you.

Remember when you could pay the provider at end of session.
Or how about when you hand the provider money and she ran out the door.

or how about pictures that were real.

or how about handing the provider the money and you get nothing except a dance. Originally Posted by pickupkid

This is why I like to find ATF's and stick with them. I always know what I'm getting, besides it takes too much time and effort to find the good ones. The loyalty pays off in more ways than one!

I always like donation up front... learn the hard way on this...long ago. But then I have a reputation of not running out the door with it either. I am very honest.. sometimes too honest.. which many cant seem to handle.

I think that honesty and COMMON SENSE are "extras" that some dont offer.. lol
Just do research.. like the providers (most) do screening.. the guys should screen too. Research.. make sure they have great BCD reputations, make sure what she has to offer will give you a mind blowing experiences and that you would mesh well bcd...

About 85 percent of the time that a lady took her overnight donation first it was either a cash and dash, a fake smoke break, a scam where they only danced or massaged after, potential rob by two girl show with pimp knocking on my door, or they just didn't give services with the same vigor their reviews entailed in my experience. Usually when a lady comes to my incall I have the money fanned out on the dresser like a chinese fan. I understand for the most part if you do your research and see verified ladies it shouldn't be an issue. And maybe I have been spoiled by a few ladies, but they always went for the money after the appointment. This has happened to me with a very strong regularity. The key here is the money is out exposed, I'm at my outcalll, and its a multihour.......her pocketing 800 to 2000 dollars on arrival and then walking downstairs for a smokebreak or her night bag seems to make me a lil nervous.

Since most times within my hobbying when the money has been taken upon arrival I have been jipped to some degree, its a fasttell ttell sign to me that it may be a shitty night. Or she will invent some excuse for a downgrade in services...(headache, change of offered services, toothpain, sleeppy, etc.)

I don't have any problem paying ladies when they arrived if they are reputable and reviewed. Definitely don't think you should make theem wait at all. And usually reputable ladies take it at the end anyway, its a respect thing at that point...they screened me to their standard and have less to worry about at that point.

That won't be an issue with me. However, If she's from backpage and relatively unknown, Ill gladly let her know she can leave if she pockets it when she arrive while I call someone else. I have been fucked to many times with unknown to just fork over that type of coin. And most times they understand where I'm coming from.........or they may be upset and (threating to leave, but they don't)know and understand I won't play games.

In my many years within this little sub-culture of ours...it was always my understanding that the donation is to be placed in a plain white envelope and placed where the lady can see it without having to look for it; BEFORE the session begins.

This is what I have always done and I have never had a problem.

I am always extremely careful with who I see and if she hasn't been documented with several good reviews...and considered reputable by other hobbyists that I consider credible...then I won't see her.

I despise Backpage. I don't even bother looking through the ads and if I see a review where the contact info is a BP link...I don't bother reading it. I instantly back click.
I do not have the disposition to be ripped off and it would not go over very well so I don't open myself up for that type of scenario.

I typically pay at end of session. I do leave an envelope on night stand dresser, wherever on first visits. No one likes being ripped off, but it happens and is a part of business. Restaurants have customers walk out on bill all the time. Can anyone imagine having to pay for dinner prior to eating?

I had one occasion where I bartered for a session and at end she wanted pymt, a reduced pymt, but pymt. I replied I had no cash on me, and my understanding was an exchange for services, funny thing is I had already performed her services before session. I got ripped off, I learned from it. I still barter services just not w her anymore. Actually I did not get ripped off cuz did not pay, but had to go thru argument, her lies, her threats, bunch of BS