China's navy is getting bigger and Biden's budget makes our navy smaller

Yep, smaller. Far from the 600 ship navy envisioned by Ronald Reagan and the 350 ship navy put together by George W Bush. Biden wants to shrink the navy down to 296 ships. Seems that climate change is a bigger problem than China.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/na...et/ar-AA18Mru4

I would consider this an impeachable offense for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...dget-proposal/

We could have 150 ships and be more powerful than all the other countries combined. More ships doesn't mean anything. We have 11 carriers with full battle groups each. China has 2 carriers. China can't afford to lose a carrier in battle, we have many to spare. And can't forget the air power each carrier is capable of, overwhelming difference if we fully loaded each carrier. As it stands our carriers can't hold all the planes and operate, so many planes have to be stored on land.

Ya'll would cry impeachment if he picked his nose. Pathetic.

the secretary of the navy says climate change is a focus

the dod has proclaimed climate change a national security priority and an existential threat

"The consequences of our changing climate are an existential threat," Del Toro (Navy Secretary) said during a speech at the University of the Bahamas in Nassau.

all this at the behest of the worms in the white house

We could have 150 ships and be more powerful than all the other countries combined. More ships doesn't mean anything. We have 11 carriers with full battle groups each. China has 2 carriers. China can't afford to lose a carrier in battle, we have many to spare. And can't forget the air power each carrier is capable of, overwhelming difference if we fully loaded each carrier. As it stands our carriers can't hold all the planes and operate, so many planes have to be stored on land.

Ya'll would cry impeachment if he picked his nose. Pathetic. Originally Posted by royamcr

Obviously, you've never served in the navy or given any thought to geo-political power and its demonstration.

I suppose you could field a baseball team of only seven players...if they were really good. But like a too small navy, there will be gaps that the enemy will exploit.

Barleyboy believes a 1000 row boats with spearman can exploit our navy. We have some real simpletons arguing on this site.

Barleyboy believes a 1000 row boats with spearman can exploit our navy. We have some real simpletons arguing on this site. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Of all skin hues

Navy is a tool to project power.

You don't just need ships. You need the ports to pull them into. Just because a nuclear powered vessel doesn't need to refuel for a very long time doesn't mean the ships that support it don't need to either.

Already brought up that other pacific rim nations are opening ports for USA ships. And other countries friendly to us are also putting new ships on their rosters.

We don't have to flip the bill for everything.

Obviously, you've never served in the navy or given any thought to geo-political power and its demonstration.

I suppose you could field a baseball team of only seven players...if they were really good. But like a too small navy, there will be gaps that the enemy will exploit. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

You don't have to serve in the Navy to look up stats and baseball is a dumb analogy. It is more like a football team 11 to 2. We could lose 2/3s of our carriers and still outnumber them 2 to 1. And that is if they even have a carrier left after we lost 2/3rds of ours which is highly doubtful. We actually have around 20 flat top vessels but only 11 are classified as carriers.

China can't project power away from home cause they can't risk losing even one carrier. They rely on air defenses close to their mainland. They can demonstrate their geopolitical garbage close to their docks all they want.

All this talk of war with China is just butt hurt fear mongering trumptard bullshit anyway. It ain't gonna happen. China relies far too much on Americans to buy the stuff made there. They fuck that up they are fucked.

Roy, you could use the WWII example of England helping us out in the Pacific. We didn't have enough carriers ourselves. They were nice enough to have a few out there to help out till we got the sleeping giant awake.

Nice benefit was they had armoured tops to they faired better with kamakazi attacks.

Thank the Aussies (where's saltlick to blow their horn?) for bolstering the fleet.

They had an obligation to help out any way they could with what we brought to them.

someone did research on all the naval battles since antiquity.

it was found that the side with the most ships won the majority of the battles.

there was 3 battles where the side with fewer ships won. this was due to that side having better seamanship, better naval tactics, and better technology.

someone did research on all the naval battles since antiquity.

it was found that the side with the most ships won the majority of the battles.

there was 3 battles where the side with fewer ships won. this was due to that side having better seamanship, better naval tactics, and better technology. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

there is one Navy that has never suffered a major strategic loss to any other Naval power in history. EVER.



the U.S. Navy





the greatest Navy in history.

The ChiComs are simply figuring out a way to take back Taiwan without pissing the US off to the point of armed conflict.

They are just about there, since it is becoming obvious that Biden has been bought off.

The consequences of our ignoring historic habbenings is THE existential threat. And who best to show us the folly of our ways? None other than F Joe O'Bidan.

You Have Witnessed History Today in Moscow and It Is Consequential

There are moment in time that change the world. Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941 was one of those. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941 was another as was 9 November 1989, when the wall in Berlin, Germany, erected by the Soviets, was torn down. And you have witnessed another one today, with Russia and China signing historic, unprecedented agreements.

Prior to 1642, Russia and China had no diplomatic or military interaction.

From 1652 to 1689, China’s armies drove the Russian settlers out, but after 1689, China and Russia made peace and established trade agreements.

In the intervening 334 years, China and Russia never established a de facto alliance. At times that were at odds and, during the last 50 years, U.S. policy made it a priority to keep a wedge between Moscow and Beijing. That is over. China and Russia are now allies, with China being the largest industrial power in the world and Russia the largest supplier of critical commodities. Their political union marks the end of Pax Americana and the U.S. domination of the international order.

Pay close attention to the joint-statement of Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping:...

xi's parting words to putin:



change is coming