Most Miserable Cities

Forbes has published this year's Most Miserable Cities in America. The "winners" are:

1. Detroit, Mich.
2. Flint, Mich.
3. Rockford, Ill.
4. Chicago, Ill.
5. Modesto, Calif.
6. Vallejo, Calif.
7. Warren, Mich.
8. Stockton, Calif.
9. Lake County, Ill.
10. New York, NY
11. Toledo, Ohio
12. St. Louis, Mo.
13. Camden, NJ
14. Milwaukee, Wisc.
15. Atlantic City, NJ
16. Atlanta, Ga.
17. Cleveland, Ohio
18. Poughkeepsie, NY
19. Gary, Ind.
20. Youngstown, Ohio

I have been to Detroit a few times, never again. It was full of zombie people, hagglers, and everyone that walked in the door had a country song to tell you. It was so depressing being there.
Cleveland is starting to get that way, I used to go monthly now I haven't been back in a long time.

but but but errr never mind, don't want to kill this thread yet on jack.

At least Buffalo isn't on that list.

How did Buffalo miss the cut?

How did Buffalo miss the cut? Originally Posted by pyramider

*giggles*

I was going to ask the same question. I would think Buffalo would be at the top of that list.

How did Buffalo miss the cut? Originally Posted by pyramider

I was going to ask the same question. I would think Buffalo would be at the top of that list. Originally Posted by GP

We can look at some of the criteria used:

unemployment rate
commuting time
violent crime rate
changes in home prices
foreclosure rate
property tax
net migration

Buffalo fares poorly in some of the criteria but does OK in others.

question: Did they only stick to the city proper or the metro area when tabulating results?

question: Did they only stick to the city proper or the metro area when tabulating results? Originally Posted by GP

According to the Forbes article, the cities refer to the metropolitan areas as defined by the Office of Management and Budget. The minimum population to be eligible was 259,000. It appears that "Buffalo" includes all of Erie County and Niagara County

See i guess Buffalo "Taint that Bad" After all!! You knew someone was going to say it!!

this seems to piggyback well with gp poll

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Jul 16, 2012 – Conservatives tend to be just plain happier people than liberals are. That's seriously bad news for the left.

OSD, I'm happy for the conservatives because of their happiness.

Chicago? I'll take some of that misery any time.

One of the world's great cities.

What Toronto dreams of being.

And Lake County, IL?

Yeah, Michael Jordan is miserable in Highland Park.

And all those poor bastards in Kenilworth.