Democrats are lying again about Medicare for all

https://www.washingtonpost.com/syndi...rc-a-thiessen/
By MARC A. THIESSEN
WASHINGTON -- In 2009, President Barack Obama promised that under Obamacare, "If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what." Millions of Americans believed him, and millions of Americans lost their health care plans. Obama's promise was a lie and his administration knew it. As Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber later explained, "the stupidity of the American voter ... was really, really critical for the thing to pass."
Well, apparently some Democrats still think you are stupid. Because a decade later, they are at it again.
In the Democratic presidential primary, there is a major fight raging over health care among the four leading contenders. On one side are Sens. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., who support a single-payer "Medicare for All" plan. Unlike Obama, Sanders is refreshingly honest, admitting to voters that under his proposal they can't keep their health plans; Medicare for All will abolish most private insurance and replace it with mandatory government health care. Americans appreciate his candor, but they don't like his plan: A Quinnipiac poll shows that support for Medicare for All has plummeted from 51% in 2017 to just 36% today.
Sensing vulnerability, former Vice President Joe Biden and South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg have gone on the offensive. Their line of attack? Sanders and Warren are infringing on people's freedom to choose.
Biden and Buttigieg are pushing instead for a public option -- what Buttigieg calls "Medicare for All Who Want It." They promise that we can have it both ways: The government can offer people the option of signing up for Medicare-like government coverage, but also protect the 160 million Americans -- many of them union workers -- who like their employer-provided insurance.
In other words: If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.
Biden's case for the public option uses almost the very same words that Obama used when he lied to the American people a decade earlier: "If you like your employer-based plan, you can keep it. If in fact you have private insurance, you can keep it," he says. In a new ad, Buttigieg also channels his inner Obama, declaring "If you prefer a public plan like Medicare, like I think most Americans will, you can choose it. But if you prefer to keep your private insurance, you can."
Just like Obama's false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie. As Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, has explained, "the public option is a Trojan horse with single-payer hiding inside." Verma points out that private insurance pays hospitals 75% more than Medicare for the same services. In 2017, for example, Medicare underpaid hospitals by $54 billion. They make up the lost revenue by charging private insurers more -- which means private plans are essentially subsidizing Medicare for seniors.
But if tens of millions of Americans under 65 sign up for a public option, the population requiring subsidies will expand dramatically, while the source of private revenue will dry up. To stay afloat, doctors and hospitals will have to charge even higher prices to private insurers, which in turn will force insurers to raise prices and reduce services -- making it harder for them to compete with the government for customers. A death spiral for private insurance will ensue. The higher private insurance premiums go, the more people will be pushed into the public option -- until eventually the private option all but disappears.
In other words, the end result of Medicare for All and "Medicare for All Who Want It" is exactly the same: the elimination of private insurance. It's only a question of whether it is eliminated instantly or dies a slow, painful death. Honest people on the left admit this. The New Republic's Libby Watson recently pointed out that Biden and Buttigieg are pushing "the big lie that by creating a public option, we can maintain private insurance" and asked "if the goal is to slowly smother private insurance, why promise that people can keep their plans that they like -- plans that you intend to ultimately kill?" Good question. The answer is: Because if they are honest, the American people will reject their plan.
So, when you hear Democrats promising you can keep your health plan, they are lying -- just like Obama was 10 years ago. As the saying goes, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. If you buy the same lie a second time, you have no one to blame but yourself.
Follow Marc A. Thiessen on Twitter, @marcthiessen.
(c) 2019, The Washington Post Writers Group

very reasoned description. and yeah, the Politicians understand this.

I didn't realize Obama's guy had been so blatant, calling the American people "stupid", LOL.. but hey, Hillary called us "deplorables" out in the open.

Represents well the smug, supercilious "We are better " than the People of America attitude of the

DPST leadership. They know intheir pea brains that they know best and are entitled to rule over all.

DPST uber Alles!!! - their marching credo.

They lie about everything

Yupper just watch Bloomys ads , For the record he did nothing good after 9/11 , the first responder s sue 2 x to get what he said. so liar is a understatement ,,, Typical elitist

Represents well the smug, supercilious "We are better " than the People of America attitude of the

DPST leadership. They know intheir pea brains that they know best and are entitled to rule over all.

DPST uber Alles!!! - their marching credo. Originally Posted by oeb11

Poor little, little crying fuckin' hypocrite.

AWWWW - Poor DPST's complaining about their own lack of "Diversity"
They face a POTUS they are Impeaching - what is to worry????
Not enough candidates of color - and of course - the DPSY's aren't RACIST about their platform. Sure looks like they don't like their white candidates.

Of course - Warren is 1/1024 "Indian" - although he tests are South American DNA - she can put on a sombrero and spout - Ai, ai , ai , ai!!!
Poor Racist DPST's - stuck with old , senile, angry white folks as the "White Meat Alternative " to Trump!


LOL Originally Posted by oeb11

Thank you for the nonsense - 95 turkeys!

very reasoned description. and yeah, the Politicians understand this.

I didn't realize Obama's guy had been so blatant, calling the American people "stupid", LOL.. but hey, Hillary called us "deplorables" out in the open. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

My guess is the reason you didn't know that is because the MSM wouldn't report that. You would have to have turned on FOX news to know that.

very reasoned description. and yeah, the Politicians understand this.

I didn't realize Obama's guy had been so blatant, calling the American people "stupid", LOL.. but hey, Hillary called us "deplorables" out in the open. Originally Posted by Chung Tran

You need to have your memory checked. It was even played on the MSM. "Grubering" was written about daily for months on this forum.

In fact...
https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=106...7&postcount=49

Poor little, little crying fuckin' hypocrite.

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

if you say so.

You need to have your memory checked. It was even played on the MSM. "Grubering" was written about daily for months on this forum.

In fact...
https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=106...7&postcount=49 Originally Posted by gnadfly

I didn't grace this Forum back then. not sure why I do now, except some of you need my wisdom

if you say so. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

No, if you say so.

awwww those poor pussies at the NSC. they think they make foreign policy. well they don't. this is happening because the person who does make foreign policy .. the President is unconcerned with the NSC's "opinions". Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

My guess is the reason you didn't know that is because the MSM wouldn't report that. You would have to have turned on FOX news to know that. Originally Posted by HedonistForever

No, if you say so. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

if you say so.

oh snap! double like! how does TWK do it?


BAHHAHHAAA


because i can and u can't.


it's magic!

do you realize the lead singer for Pilot was a Homosexual who died of AIDS?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_(band)

just wondering.