Otto Wambier Death

A few days before his death there was a article that said he had extensive brain damage, he'd never recover and that the damage was likely the cause of torture. So, when his death was announced the next day, I wasn't shocked by it.

What shocked me was the Facebook reaction. There were two groups of postings that just made wonder about the mindset of many Americans. That we've been so brainwashed there are just kneejerk reactions, false equivalencies, that people are so quick so bark.

Those groups were:
1) Basically it is OK for a white police officer to shoot a black suspect with no repercussions so who gives a damn about a white boy in in NK. Yeah, you read that correctly. Evidently according to a lot of what appears to be black people on FB, North Korea's death squad is the same as our various local law enforcement agencies.

2) Somehow criticizing Otto's decision to travel to North Korea was some type of implicit approval of Kim Jong Un's use of torture. I even saw some people I actually knew try to construe this. The fact that Kim Jong is going to do whatever Kim Jong is going to in Kim Jong's country doesn't make it right. It's just Kim Jong being Kim Jong. Somehow pointing this out meant the criticizers APPROVED of the torture. Just not true and incredibly stupid of some people.

Did anyone else see something similar?

How come there's no travel ban to North Korea but there is to Cuba

How come there's no travel ban to North Korea but there is to Cuba Originally Posted by WTF

My old passport had them both banned.

Cuba will probably be lifted soon. We're already letting their nasty bug ridden cigars into this country.

My old passport had them both banned.

Cuba will probably be lifted soon. We're already letting their nasty bug ridden cigars into this country. Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Never had a big problem getting them...

Never had a big problem getting them... Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Is that what Slick Willy used on Monica ???????????? That " Devil in A bLEW(insky) dress !!!!!! " I did NOT......!!!!!!!! Did Willy ever figure out what the definition of " IS " is ???????????????

Otto is on Obaminable.

I am guessing he did not believe what barbarians that regime is and how they would treat an American they suspected of a crime in their country. He probably thought that it was all American propaganda since you cannot believe much of what the media reports.

I am guessing he did not believe what barbarians that regime is and how they would treat an American they suspected of a crime in their country. He probably thought that it was all American propaganda since you cannot believe much of what the media reports. Originally Posted by The2Dogs

Which one: Otto or Obaminable?

Frankly, there are not many places in the World it "can't" happen.

Some places are just more likely than others.

Given "history" (more recently) U.S. citizens abroad are "on their own" as far as being extracted and/or removed from a bad situation.

Was he?

http://www.gaypatriot.net/2017/06/19/rip-otto-warmbier/

https://snn.bz/otto-warmbier-dead/

How come there's no travel ban to North Korea but there is to Cuba Originally Posted by WTF

Maybe The State Dept was using common sense......."who the fuck is stupid enough to go into North Korea"?

Our State Dept is right in saying that if anybody is so naive as to actually go there, then they are on their own. No resources what so ever will be extended in helping you if you go there and find yourself on the wrong side of their Laws.

Our State Dept is right in saying that if anybody is so naive as to actually go there, then they are on their own. No resources what so ever will be extended in helping you if you go there and find yourself on the wrong side of their Laws. Originally Posted by Jackie S

I don't have a problem with that as long as we have the same policy when their criminals come into this country or their "tourists" violate our "Laws"!

As has been the case for almost a decade .... foreigners here get a better shake than U.S. citizens abroad.

great, now its "white privilege"

great, now its "white privilege" Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

.. not with me!

It's simply "humanitarian"!

Otto is on Obaminable. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Actually Otto is on Otto.

Obama did not send him to North Korea.

This country needs to learn what personal responsibility is.

Had the kid dies in a prison in this country, it is not the Presidents responsibility.

Stfu.

Maybe The State Dept was using common sense......."who the fuck is stupid enough to go into North Korea"?

Our State Dept is right in saying that if anybody is so naive as to actually go there, then they are on their own. No resources what so ever will be extended in helping you if you go there and find yourself on the wrong side of their Laws. Originally Posted by Jackie S

That should be our policy if it is not.

Who the fuck goes to North Korea?

And then tries and steal a souvenir...

Look, I'm not happy the kid is dead but it is all on him, not anybody in our government.