The False Bravado of White Knights / Will they get ladies hurt?

So our friendly neighbohood Provider Abuser has bit the dust on yet another handle and along the way picked up a few more that primp and posture for the ladies.

Guys have been posturing and talking about kicking his ass now for 10 months here on the board. But he's been at it for 5 years and skates everytime.

Yup. At least 5 years. He raped a girl back in 2010. Or so she claimed. But was never prosecuted. Who knows how many since then before he found safe haven here having sex with providers and taking their money.

Do you think he is doing it for the money? The Sex? I think it happens for the attention you all give him here. Maybe he decided he liked the attention during the years they were trying to get him for the 2010 incident and that has been winding down this year and about to end.

What happens if anyone actually does confront him? IMO , even if someone does give him a beat down he eventually gets up and takes it out on the next lady he sees.

It's not much of a secret who he is or where he lives and even where he works has been shared with a few since back in March. It is known what he drives and where the vehicles and different license plates are sourced.

Still nothing ever happens.

Month after month he continues on his quest and whore after whore falls victim.

Why? Because none of the ladies will stand-up and say enough and call the police and tell their story.

Once their is an actual investigation open a lot of information can get fed to the investigating officer. Maybe they will look at this guy for what has been going on for years.

Who knows.

I do believe that before this guys run comes to an end that the pain causd to date is seen as miniscule as compared to what happenin the long run.

As with everything here gentlemen. This is the Ladies "business" and you cannot really impact it in any way and that includes saving them from themselves or those that prey on them.

I have spoke to no less than 8 providers he has victimized. He has hit two of them. NONE are willing to come forward. They just write it off as a $200-$300 loss.

He knows providers as a whole do NOT screen. He uses a handle till he is confronted on the board via an alert. Then he posts away denying everything. Gets in a few arguments, gets banned and moves on to the next handle!

Providers that ONLY meet board members that have been here a year or have P411 won't meet him. YOU WILL NOT FALL VICTEM TO THIS PREDITURE! The pattern is it takes about 2-3 months for EACH handle to be burned some times less. (Before a provider finally comes forward) Mean while every day he sends out texts looking for his next victim. Many providers won't say anything because they are embarrassed they got took.

It sucks that some providers are experiencing this. Hopefully providers are screening better and sharing this information in the appropriate places.

I am curious as to why you posted this considering how you treat people on the board. You collect information on members here. You spread misinformation among other things. Is it that today you somehow care or is it because it's getting closer to the end of the year?

Hope there is a stop put to this guy and the providers do what they need to do to prevent him from hurting them.

This is an issue for the providers and they can deal with it themselves.

I understand that there are no real white knights who would works with providers to insure that there are no more victims but so far WKs are fierce behind the safety of their monitors but when it comes to being of service to the community they disappear.

I would think that a person who made sure no further providers ever were ever harmed or stolen from in the future would probably see some serious benefits for the effort. I am not suggesting physical harm in anyway but setting up the propers set of circumstances to allow him to be arrested or meet a over protective manager could solve the problem for good.

Once again I am not nor would I suggest outing or harm to happen to this person ....but I would like to reference the following:

These people did something about serious crimes and protecting a lazy provider from a person who steals their services, and becomes violent when confronted by them, does not fall under the severity of the events below but they are interesting to read....

David Chen: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03...s-arrest-laws/

Lori Palmer http://cjonline.com/stories/061601/k...lantemom.shtml

William Lynch: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...lt-3686581.php

Brad Willman: http://www.crime-research.org/news/2002/08/Mess1901.htm

David Baraja: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-co...d-sons-n190286


Joe Horn: http://mediamatters.org/video/2009/0...-horn-w/149221


I will repeat one more time that i am not suggesting that you take matters into your own hands and commit a crime but helping this person to create his own demise would certainly go a long way towards making austin a better hobby community.

I know about 4 dangerous guys to beware of.
Guys that try to get past screening by emailing or texting a provider and pretending to be someone that the provider has already seen or pretending to be a popular poster.
Not all ladies pay attention to infoshare or the powder room posts when screening. Some don't screen at all or barely screen.

Old fashion greed motivates these chicks and they have too many legal issues to stand up if they did get raped or abused. Criminals don't typically call the cops when a crime takes place or they are engaged in an illegal activity.

This board is full of white knights who are brave in cyberspace and will do nothing in person. Trust me I know plenty of cowards on this board which is why they should keep their opinions silent before they get themselves hurt as well as the chicks they allegedly defend.

Some coed discussions rooms statewide have the same pathetic little men making comments and believe it or not the same worthless providers who should be handling business versus commenting on the board.

I think about the Psycho Marine Threads in three different forum and they come up about twice a year. None of these chicks do anything, especially the pimp owned ones because their pimps don't care and just want money.

Good points you raised Whispers.

I don't know why they won't come forward either.
Not all of them have reasons to avoid LE to make reports.
When I make post to threads a Provider starts about running across one of these dangerous individuals, I get chided by by Hobbyis suggesting the Provider make a Police report.
I've been involved with one person of this ilk. Gather data to ID the person so the Provider who was harmed could have the information for the police. But they won't do it.

It is really sickening when there is a predator out there and the Sisterhood won't protect themselves. No reason for any of them to take a hit for the team. They can collectively punch back and have the scum locked up if they seized the initiative.

It sucks that some providers are experiencing this...

I am curious as to why you posted this considering how you treat people on the board. You collect information on members here. You spread misinformation among other things. Is it that todday you somehow care or is it because it's getting closer to the end of the year?…
Originally Posted by Mike Vronsky

(OFF TOPIC)
I have no dog in this fight between you and Wispers, SL and who knows who else, but I seriously doubt that I'm the only one that is sick and tired of your constant bitching every time they post something. Instead of hiding behind a keyboard why don't you stop your bitching here and man up, meet face-to-face, then you can run your mouth all you want and "may the best man win."

Now … back to your regular scheduled programming.

Most board trolls wont face each other and man up and I really think based upon some of the white knights, they want to meet some folks in person and take a good old fashion ass whipping.

I know I have some haters and when they see me in person they run. Maybe its my cologne or my ugly face but trust me, a keyboard gives some guys nuts for days.

Complaining about an inability to physically confront an opponent in cyberspace is akin to stepping into a boxing ring reciting rhetoric.

I don't know why they won't come forward either.
Not all of them have reasons to avoid LE to make reports.
When I make post to threads a Provider starts about running across one of these dangerous individuals, I get chided by by Hobbyis suggesting the Provider make a Police report.
I've been involved with one person of this ilk. Gather data to ID the person so the Provider who was harmed could have the information for the police. But they won't do it.

It is really sickening when there is a predator out there and the Sisterhood won't protect themselves. No reason for any of them to take a hit for the team. They can collectively punch back and have the scum locked up if they seized the initiative. Originally Posted by Precious_b

It's very difficult to help anyone that doesn't want to help themselves

Does the Provider Abuser do this in other cities or is it only in Austin?

Does the Provider Abuser do this in other cities or is it only in Austin? Originally Posted by Billy Shakes

There are several men victimizing ladies in the Killeen/Austin/San Antonio corridor.

ztonk

Good post OP

Varied thoughts, in no particular order:


Some providers don't realize that 'escorting' is NOT illegal, in the state of Texas. Physical assault (yes, even running over your foot) and rape trump 'he was supposed to pay me $150 for sex' any day.

The 'risk' of going to the police is that identity exposure IS a possibility. If this titillating 'abusive john beats and rapes prostitute' crap ends up in AAS - real names might be used. Intimidating in and of itself.

*sigh* Sadly, for some women - being hit and forced to have sex is NOT out of the ordinary. It is and has been the status quo w/ the men, in their lives.

Women who are abused, on a regular basis, get to a point where their self worth is zip. The drama/emotional upheaval/pain are just 'how it is' and they learn to function in that reality.

If a provider (and I am NOT saying that is the case w/ any women here) deals w/ sexual/phsical/emotional abuse, on a regular basis...she will be upset/angry/feel ripped off but...reporting it WON'T be her go-to- solution.

A woman doesn't invite violence on herself - so, even if her screening was weak or non-existent...there is only one bad guy in the equation.


I want to believe that a good portion of you men feel that masculine and protective anger, for the women who have been victimized or for women, in general.

Some have expressed a desire to deal with him - and yet, is it your job to do so?

Yes, it is easy to call a provider a 'friend' but, if you risk exposure is that risk worth taking?

You may call her a 'friend', but, as was said - you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped.

You can't logically undo someone's history or low self esteem.

You may call her a 'friend' BUT, can you risk giving your rw info to the cops?

You may genuinely care and feel righteous anger - but, a group of you meeting this guy in a dark alley, is taking Texas vigilante justice waaaaaayyyy over the top.(Hold on...I am taking a moment to actually imagine that...and I am slightly ashamed, to admit, it brought a smile to my lips)

As Whispers stated - even if one of you gives him a beating...he will just get up and do it again.

Safe to assume that he doesn't single out providers for his hatred. I think 'women, in general' are all on his hate-list. Not diagnosing but, this behaviour tends to escalate. Eventually (I hope and pray) he will get caught.

Will it be at the expense of some woman who is so badly injured (killed?) that it DOES make the front page? TLTL?

Then, who will bear the guilt of saying, "Oh no! I know him! That guy did the same thing to me! He robbed/raped/beat me too! If only SOMEONE had stopped him before he did this to that poor woman!"

Ladies, if someone here has offered to help you go to the police - do it.
If you are teetering on the fence about whether you should - do you want to bear the guilt because you DIDN'T do something when you could?

Go read SL's post and think, as though your life depended on it, before you say 'yes' when Mr. ???? texts you w/no refs, no history, no P411 etc.

The women ARE the only ones who can fix this. Doing the right thing isn't always easy...and a man can't always fix it.


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It's very difficult to help anyone that doesn't want to help themselves Originally Posted by Whispers

Amen.

As i've heard before, God helps those that help themselves.