Here's the article, and it's very unbiased:
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/def...g-from-way-up/
Please see Red's post. Your article, ST, shows Obama's deficits as the largest in history. And we know that at the end of his term, he will have added to the national debt morethan all Presidents before him. Don't be fooled. Obama is not a friend to the people. He is owned by the same group that has owned his predecessors. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyThanks for pointing this out. I know I saw an article with the opposite view. I'll try and find it. I certainly agree with you that most presidents are bought and paid for by corporate interest groups. The healthcare fiasco that Obama has has passed in not efficent. I still believe that if we got rid of the insurance companies and just had a government financed health system like Europe, all would benefit. In other words, national healthcare for all. Insurance companies are the culprit.
Please see Red's post. Your article, ST, shows Obama's deficits as the largest in history. And we know that at the end of his term, he will have added to the national debt morethan all Presidents before him. Don't be fooled. Obama is not a friend to the people. He is owned by the same group that has owned his predecessors. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyDid you read that email before or after wiring the nigerian prince your entire life savings? you gullible idiot.
Loved this quote from the article:"In fact, although the White House didn’t cite it, the newly released mid-year projection from the White House Office of Management and Budget for the 2013 fiscal year shows that due to rising revenues, the 2013 deficit is now projected to be $759 billion — $214 billion lower than the $973 billion deficit projected in the original budget"Obama inherited the biggest deficit in our history. This is not up for debate. A president can't be held entirely responsible for the deficit in his first year. That budget was set the previous year under the previous administration. Fiscal year 2009 actually began in October of 2008. That's when it's all Obama's.
For the record, the highest BUSH deficit run up with a REPUBLICAN congress, was roughly $500 Billion. So Obama's SMALLEST deficit so far in 6+ years is higher than Bush's highest until he signed Nancy and Dirty Harry's budget that topped $1 Trillion in 2009.
Amazing how Obama has managed to ramp up the Federal REVENUE to a record $3+ TRILLION.. and still have 3/4's of a TRILLION more spent than he took in.
But hey.. deficits are only bad when a Republican is in the White House..... right? Originally Posted by RedLeg505
Thanks for pointing this out. I know I saw an article with the opposite view. I'll try and find it. I certainly agree with you that most presidents are bought and paid for by corporate interest groups. The healthcare fiasco that Obama has has passed in not efficent. I still believe that if we got rid of the insurance companies and just had a government financed health system like Europe, all would benefit. In other words, national healthcare for all. Insurance companies are the culprit. Originally Posted by SeekingTruth
Did you read that email before or after wiring the nigerian prince your entire life savings? you gullible idiot.Bullshit propaganda that gets conservatives all tingly in the shorts. So tingly, in fact, they don't fact check it and just keep passing it along. If you repeat something enough, people believe it. Especially when it's something they badly want to believe anyway. It's called confirmation bias.
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/due...bt-deceptions/
And it’s also untrue — as claimed in a graphic widely circulated by email and in social media postings — that the debt has increased more under Obama than under all previous 43 presidents combined. In fact, as of Jan. 31, 2012, the rise under Obama had yet to surpass the rise under his predecessor, George W. Bush.
Speaking of, do you even know what the debt actually means? If so, can you please explain the simple difference between intergovernmental debt and debt held by the public? I'm sure you can use google, but I'd like to see you at least try.
Go back and look at the figures. The amount of increase in public debt started under George Bush, as early as January 2008. It was a response to the financial crisis. The same growth rate has continued under Obama. Originally Posted by shanm
figure out what the hell we are going to do next. Originally Posted by WombRaiderDo Next? What's to do next. All the properly indoctrinated Obama supporters keep telling us the economy is great because the DOW is up. Forget that the labor participation rate is below 63%. Forget that GDP last quarter was 0.2% and a negative 2.7% Q1 FY2015.
if we got rid of the insurance companies and just had a government financed health system like Europe, all would benefit. In other words, national healthcare for all. Insurance companies are the culprit. Originally Posted by SeekingTruthAbsolutely hilarious, since the one "true government sole provider health care system".. otherwise known as the VA.. is transitioning to "vouchers" to allow VA patients to see "private" medical service providers.
Do Next? What's to do next. All the properly indoctrinated Obama supporters keep telling us the economy is great because the DOW is up. Forget that the labor participation rate is below 63%. Forget that GDP last quarter was 0.2% and a negative 2.7% Q1 FY2015.Negative growth in GDP for the first quarter of fiscal year 2015? That's interesting, since we only have projections at this point on those figures, not hard figures.
Are you saying the economy is NOT "doing great"?? Originally Posted by RedLeg505
Absolutely hilarious, since the one "true government sole provider health care system".. otherwise known as the VA.. is transitioning to "vouchers" to allow VA patients to see "private" medical service providers.There would still be private medical service in a single-payer system. Other countries do it and it works fine for them. Are you saying we aren't capable of doing that?
So what you want is for everyone to have VA like coverage where you get in line and wait a year or so to be seen by a doctor and possibly DIE while waiting?
Or was there some other type of "single payer" system you had in mind that is different? Originally Posted by RedLeg505