.. and often, one side has a bigger voice than the other.
How about people put their hatred aside and examine what happened.
https://news.yahoo.com/paul-whelan-b...234345973.html
- String Nutts
- 12-09-2022, 10:11 PM
- eyecu2
- 12-10-2022, 07:55 AM
Trump was too busy grifting and criming than to worry about US nationals abroad. He would rather tweet some lies and gin-up the coup than to be presidential. He was busy withphoto opportunities at Lafayette sq and the dismantling of any prior administration executive actions and letting the devils own Steven Miller to strip kids from parents at the border.
Why would Trump help a marine or a pothead b-ball player? Kenye and Kim never told him to do that! Tucker and Hannity didn't tell him. Laura Horseface Ingraham didn't say he needed that. Too busy with conspiracies about CRT and other total horseshit.
Kevin McCarthy had him only focused on appeasing his most ardent supporters and MAGA morons. Any Republicans from KY, MS, TX, AZ are particularly nefarious bad actors.
Just fucking stupid people who continued to carry water to 45.
Why would Trump help a marine or a pothead b-ball player? Kenye and Kim never told him to do that! Tucker and Hannity didn't tell him. Laura Horseface Ingraham didn't say he needed that. Too busy with conspiracies about CRT and other total horseshit.
Kevin McCarthy had him only focused on appeasing his most ardent supporters and MAGA morons. Any Republicans from KY, MS, TX, AZ are particularly nefarious bad actors.
Just fucking stupid people who continued to carry water to 45.
- Charley3
- 12-10-2022, 06:50 PM
Trump could care less about Whelan.
However Biden just made Americans more vulnerable. If we have a dangerous foreign arms dealer locked up, just grab any left leaning, minority American. Joe will swap even up.
However Biden just made Americans more vulnerable. If we have a dangerous foreign arms dealer locked up, just grab any left leaning, minority American. Joe will swap even up.
- DrivesAllDay
- 12-10-2022, 09:12 PM
Well, according to the info available about Whelan's time as a Marine-
"After a court-martial conviction in January 2008 on multiple counts "related to larceny", he was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad conduct discharge.The specific charges against him included "attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another’s social security number, and ten specifications of making and uttering checks without having sufficient funds in his account for payment."
Not exactly an exemplary model of a Marine.
"After a court-martial conviction in January 2008 on multiple counts "related to larceny", he was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad conduct discharge.The specific charges against him included "attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another’s social security number, and ten specifications of making and uttering checks without having sufficient funds in his account for payment."
Not exactly an exemplary model of a Marine.
- jmichael
- 12-11-2022, 10:56 AM
Trump could care less about Whelan.I agree with you on this one, I don't think it was as much about race or politics as it was about her being a high-profile athlete and Gay
However Biden just made Americans more vulnerable. If we have a dangerous foreign arms dealer locked up, just grab any left leaning, minority American. Joe will swap even up. Originally Posted by Charley3
- Jacuzzme
- 12-11-2022, 11:18 AM
If Whelan wants out he should start wearing heels and blowing the guards.
“High profile athlete” LOL! Like 4 people, of the 10 who follow the wnba, knew who this dyke was.
“High profile athlete” LOL! Like 4 people, of the 10 who follow the wnba, knew who this dyke was.
- The_Waco_Kid
- 12-11-2022, 02:48 PM
Trump was too busy grifting and criming than to worry about US nationals abroad. He would rather tweet some lies and gin-up the coup than to be presidential. He was busy withphoto opportunities at Lafayette sq and the dismantling of any prior administration executive actions and letting the devils own Steven Miller to strip kids from parents at the border.
Why would Trump help a marine or a pothead b-ball player? Kenye and Kim never told him to do that! Tucker and Hannity didn't tell him. Laura Horseface Ingraham didn't say he needed that. Too busy with conspiracies about CRT and other total horseshit.
Kevin McCarthy had him only focused on appeasing his most ardent supporters and MAGA morons. Any Republicans from KY, MS, TX, AZ are particularly nefarious bad actors.
Just fucking stupid people who continued to carry water to 45. Originally Posted by eyecu2
not so. recall this? Trump gave up nothing to get 3 people out of North Korea. it can be done. Trump did it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/u...es-pompeo.html
Trump could care less about Whelan.
However Biden just made Americans more vulnerable. If we have a dangerous foreign arms dealer locked up, just grab any left leaning, minority American. Joe will swap even up. Originally Posted by Charley3
perhaps Trump was smarter than Biden than to swap Victor Bout for anyone? Whelan isn't the saint the press wants people to think. see below about his career as a marine.
Well, according to the info available about Whelan's time as a Marine-
"After a court-martial conviction in January 2008 on multiple counts "related to larceny", he was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad conduct discharge.The specific charges against him included "attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another’s social security number, and ten specifications of making and uttering checks without having sufficient funds in his account for payment."
Not exactly an exemplary model of a Marine.
yep. interesting the press seems to not mention this. it's very likely the FSB set up Whelan. that's what Whelan gets for cultivating contacts with the FSB who are almost as notorious as their predecessor the KGB for such tactics.
what's also not being reported much is that on what was supposed to be a personal trip to Russia to attend a friend's wedding Whelan had 80,000 in cash with him. a rather suspicious amount to take for a personal trip. one might theorize it was to buy the flashdrive his FSB friend brought when they met. and the FSB showed up moments later. a classic setup.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_W...and_sentencing
Arrest in Russia
On December 28, 2018, Whelan was arrested in the Moscow area by the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), which later confirmed his arrest.[17][18][19] Whelan's twin brother David said Whelan arrived in Moscow on December 22 to attend the wedding of a former fellow Marine at the Hotel Metropol Moscow and to assist the groom's family members on their first visit to Russia, a country he had visited many times. He said his brother planned to return to Michigan on January 6, 2019, via Saint Petersburg.[20]
Per MBK News, an outlet run by Putin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Whelan had $80,000 in cash "temporarily confiscated" during a customs inspection at Domodedovo Airport.[21] David said his brother entered Russia using his U.S. passport.[4] He said his brother had not been in contact with his family. He was formally charged on January 3, 2019.[22]
According to the Russian news agency Rosbalt [ru], Whelan was apprehended in his hotel room at the Metropol while concluding a long outing with a Russian citizen, who handed him a USB drive containing "a list of all the employees at a classified security agency". The independent Latvian-based publication Meduza reported that the wedding attendees all banded close together for the duration of the holiday, and were taken aback by Whelan's decision to spend the day alone.[23]
The BBC cited family members of Whelan, who said he previously bragged about knowing an agent of the FSB, and was privy to an unusual cache of personal details about his friend, including which intelligence training school he attended (biographical information typically reserved for a very close circle).[24]
According to Whelan, his long-time friend had appeared unexpectedly in the hotel, followed by authorities, who later arrested him.[25]