Which of these 2 Amendments is the most abused?

winn dixie's Avatar
The first or the fourteenth?
Grace Preston's Avatar
Depends. Are we talking what the 1st Amendment actually is-- or what people think it is?
winn dixie's Avatar
Changing the first is a slippery slope! But its abused and misconstrued all the time!
The fourteenth should be thrown out and re-written. A U.S. citizen should be born here by U.S. parents!
Only clause needed is for U.S. citizens working abroad! [example- military, diplomats etc..]
winn dixie's Avatar
Depends. Are we talking what the 1st Amendment actually is-- or what people think it is? Originally Posted by Grace Preston
Good question!
You actually hit the nail on the head what the problem is
Yssup Rider's Avatar
(Crickets...)
eccieuser9500's Avatar
Depends. Are we talking what the 1st Amendment actually is-- or what people think it is? Originally Posted by Grace Preston
What is the First Amendment, as you define it (or your source definition)? Versus what you think people think the First Amendment is. Please and thank you.
eccieuser9500's Avatar
The first or the fourteenth? Originally Posted by winn dixie
Five-word opening post? No links.

Citizenship Rights, Equal Protection, Apportionment, Civil War Debt


https://constitutioncenter.org/inter.../amendment-xiv


Freedom of Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, and Petition


https://constitutioncenter.org/inter...nt/amendment-i


With the number of bloggers, influencers on social and interactive media, I'd have to say more people abuse the freedom of speech and press. Everyone with a website is a critic.

Anchor baby parents like Nikki Haley's don't hold a candle to free press abuse.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
What is the First Amendment, as you define it (or your source definition)? Versus what you think people think the First Amendment it. Please and thank you. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

is this a protest or a riot? here is a hint. it stops being a protest the moment it becomes a riot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H86W82Bgpq4




butt whats do yous care? you've already said yous are a lazy revolutionist .. yous sit on yer arse on yer couch and cheer the revolution on. will yous cheer when the revolution comes for yous?
eccieuser9500's Avatar
is this a protest or a riot? here is a hint. it stops being a protest the moment it becomes a riot


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H86W82Bgpq4




butt whats do yous care? you've already said yous are a lazy revolutionist .. yous sit on yer arse on yer couch and cheer the revolution on. will yous cheer when the revolution comes for yous? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
I AM the revolution, you . . . .

Revolutionist? Trying to be funny, or just triggered again? Try REVOLUTIONARY, sir.
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
I AM the revolution, you . . . .

Revolutionist? Trying to be funny, or just triggered again? Try REVOLUTIONARY, sir. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

i am your opposition. we are well funded and well armed. are you?


BBAHHAHHAAAAAAAAAA
eccieuser9500's Avatar
i am your opposition. we are well funded and well armed. are you?


BBAHHAHHAAAAAAAAAA Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
No. Brains supersede arms.














Grace Preston's Avatar
No. Brains supersede arms.


Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Unfortunately-- that is only until the point at which they splatter.




When I say "what people think the First Amendment is".. I'm talking of the folks who think that freedom of speech means freedom from consequences. Freedom of speech protects you (theoretically) from the government. I can say Trump is an asshole and I can't be punished by the government for that. However, if I post that on say... Facebook.. and my employer has a "no political posts" clause-- I can absolutely be fired and it isn't a violation of my rights. A president of a company can say shitty things online and its legal-- but it isn't a violation of their 1A when people opt to boycott. Hell-- the President himself has gone on the record telling folks to boycott a company because he didn't like their stance on political hats/shirts/clothing in their work environment.



Freedom of speech offers you zero protections from consequences in regards to private entities, companies, etc. It protects you from prosecution-- and even that has limits (inciting a riot is an example).
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  • 10-01-2020, 05:55 AM
9500- TWK is correct - You claim to be the violent, racist, marxist 'revolution' - but all One has is to sit on One's ass and type- keyboard pseudo warrior - and when the OBLM and Anti-Fa comes for You -9500- No One will speak for You. !


When harris send her brownshirt fascists racist for me - Thee will be a lage pile of dead DPST's in front of my cold- dead hands.



DPST's are fomenting and enabling Civil War in America - Be my guest - time for a lot of coffins for DPST violent 'revolutionaries' - armchair stupids who are being used by the DPST party.
rexdutchman's Avatar
The goal post move all the time with the dim-wits liberal socialist , But the Free speech issue is big for them right now, you know TRUTH not allowed in the media
Unique_Carpenter's Avatar
Easily the 1st.
People simply don't understand it.
Reread Grace's post above.