A Voting Fraud Survey

... G'day Stumpers,

... Ya know, mates... I gotta tell you.
I keep pointing out the voter fraud here and there,
and some people just aint convinced.

... So I'm gonna embark on a new poll or maybe
even do a survey of people... Just to see how
and why they voted back in the 2020 election.

... Just to see how THEY feel about voter fraud.

Did Biden really win? ... OR did Trump really win.
Maybe a good survey can surely tell the tale.

... I'll be sure to let you fellows know-of me results!

#### Salty

... G'day Stumpers,

... Ya know, mates... I gotta tell you.
I keep pointing out the voter fraud here and there,
and some people just aint convinced.

... So I'm gonna embark on a new poll or maybe
even do a survey of people... Just to see how
and why they voted back in the 2020 election.

... Just to see how THEY feel about voter fraud.

Did Biden really win? ... OR did Trump really win.
Maybe a good survey can surely tell the tale.

... I'll be sure to let you fellows know-of me results!

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

There have been several polls on the subject and in most of them about 1/3 question the legitimacy of the 2020 election, obviously skewed by Republicans who voted for Trump in 2020.

Of course, none of those who claim fraud could point to any cases of fraud in the election.

There are over a dozen cases of claimed fraud in the country and ZERO have found any systemic attempt, or ability to do this claimed event. How many times does not liking and outcome need to be voted on for you guys on the right? Does voting on it, make it less real?

Why not just accept Trump lost, like we did when he won!? We all got over it, and despite the questionable details of an election, no proof of nefarious deeds then or in 2020 have come to the surface.


What is absolutely showing up now is that republicans have tried to redraw more gerrymandering districts and been told to pound salt by courts, and more attempts at stripping voters of their 15th, 19th, and 24th amendments of rights. Essentially, vote like a republican or we'll take away your vote. Fucking can't make this shit up.

... Mate, lemme remind you that IF you're not happy
with a thread topic - you need-not comment.

... You seem blue with the idea of a voter survey.
Where people can answer IF they or a family member
or a good mate just might have "broke the rules"
and possibly committed voter fraud.

... What's the harm?

... But no worrys, I may have some results on things soon.

... Just wait! ...

#### Salty

A survey to determine who who won the election?
The election is already in the books.
Anybody who thinks trump won is just dreaming. You've been asked many times to produce links backing up what are fake claims. You're just trying to muddy the water. You don't acknowledge the facts let alone try to prove falsehoods or try to refute linked posts.

So what do you think?
When there is no evidence, even though you claim there is, why do you jump from debunked story to debunked story?

... Mate, lemme remind you that IF you're not happy
with a thread topic - you need-not comment.

... You seem blue with the idea of a voter survey.
Where people can answer IF they or a family member
or a good mate just might have "broke the rules"
and possibly committed voter fraud.

... What's the harm?

... But no worrys, I may have some results on things soon.Every time you want us to wait for information is a time you're just going to make something up.
Sure would be nice if you could provide a claim and prove it in real time.
We're still waiting for proof of missing ballots or a Supreme court (Georgia) decision concerning those ballots.

... Just wait! ...

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Blimey! ... Rasmussen Reports and the Heartland Institute did one!

A voter survey - and what did they find?

One-in-Five Mail-in Voters Admit that they Cheated in the 2020 election!

That's right... More than 20% of voters who used mail-in ballots
in 2020 Admit they participated in at least one form of voter fraud.

A new telephone and online survey by Rasmussen and the Heartland
Institute shows that 21% claimed that they filled a mail-in
or absentee ballot for a friend or family member - while 78%
say that they didn't... 30% of responders say that they voted
either by absentee or mail-in ballot and 19% say that a friend
or family member "voted for them" on their behalf.
Furthermore, 17% of mail-in voters say they cast a ballot in
a state where they were no longer a permanent resident.

All these things are ILLEGAL - the Heartland Institute noted.

You can read more about this on Revolver News and the Rasmussen site.

Another interesting thing is the survey responces were rather even
between Biden and Trump supporters... No difference in who
did these things, voters on BOTH sides of the spectrum did.

Which surely tells ME that there's a problem with mail-in ballots.
Can't tell just who is really doing the actual voting.
Can't tell whether a person actually sent ballots in two (or more)
different areas to vote more than once.
The survey didn't cover that.

And of course mail-in ballots without proper signature and date
can surely be rife with voter fraud.

I'm glad we did the survey... For Truth, Justice and the American Way!

#### Salty

Total bullshit. Only trumpys would respond to a survey 3 years after the election. And only a trumpy would claim such a survey had any relevance. You wouldn't know the truth if you fell over it.


You come up with this kind of bullshit all the time. Just another try by you to cast doubt on the election.
Rasmussen is mostly trumpys anyway.
You believe anything that furthers your narrative no matter how wacked it is.

... Blimey! ... Rasmussen Reports and the Heartland Institute did one!

A voter survey - and what did they find?

One-in-Five Mail-in Voters Admit that they Cheated in the 2020 election!

That's right... More than 20% of voters who used mail-in ballots
in 2020 Admit they participated in at least one form of voter fraud.

A new telephone and online survey by Rasmussen and the Heartland
Institute shows that 21% claimed that they filled a mail-in
or absentee ballot for a friend or family member - while 78%
say that they didn't... 30% of responders say that they voted
either by absentee or mail-in ballot and 19% say that a friend
or family member "voted for them" on their behalf.
Furthermore, 17% of mail-in voters say they cast a ballot in
a state where they were no longer a permanent resident.

All these things are ILLEGAL - the Heartland Institute noted.

You can read more about this on Revolver News and the Rasmussen site.

Another interesting thing is the survey responces were rather even
between Biden and Trump supporters... No difference in who
did these things, voters on BOTH sides of the spectrum did.

Which surely tells ME that there's a problem with mail-in ballots.
Can't tell just who is really doing the actual voting.
Can't tell whether a person actually sent ballots in two (or more)
different areas to vote more than once.
The survey didn't cover that.

And of course mail-in ballots without proper signature and date
can surely be rife with voter fraud.

I'm glad we did the survey... For Truth, Justice and the American Way!

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Mate, lemme remind you that IF you're not happy
with a thread topic - you need-not comment.

... You seem blue with the idea of a voter survey.
Where people can answer IF they or a family member
or a good mate just might have "broke the rules"
and possibly committed voter fraud.

... What's the harm?

... But no worrys, I may have some results on things soon.

... Just wait! ...

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Maybe rather than chastise others when you can’t respond to their challenges, you should take a breath and think about why you have to constantly back down (start your own threads. Racial insults…low brow comments… all that other bs you post when you get taken to the shed for false statements.).

Rather than threaten us with a survey, just start one. You know how, right?

Saw this last night and it debunks all your voter fraud bullshit.

https://www.tiktok.com/@keeptroyblue...=1702654936487

... Piss! ... Ya just made me spill me beer from laughing!

... Yer "tiktok" fact-check bloke must have missed GEORGIA!

Lemme grab another beer... ... There we go!

So are you lads sayin' that Rasmussen Reports didn't do any survey??
OR that you lads don't fancy surveys??
OR are you just blue as Joe tanks in the polls and Trump
has a growing lead??

### Salty

...

... Just to see how THEY feel about voter fraud. ... Originally Posted by Salty Again

As I always tell my partner at work: Throw your feelings out the window. We are here to work.

So, opinions and feelings are the rule for the day here.

Let us know when factual evidence will be the standard.

The poll wasn't about Georgia.

He debunked all 3 as being normal and not voter fraud.

Maga hates that shit.

... Piss! ... Ya just made me spill me beer from laughing!

... Yer "tiktok" fact-check bloke must have missed GEORGIA!

Lemme grab another beer... ... There we go!

So are you lads sayin' that Rasmussen Reports didn't do any survey??
OR that you lads don't fancy surveys??
OR are you just blue as Joe tanks in the polls and Trump
has a growing lead??

### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

This thread is almost unbelievable. Salty is obsessed.....never has facts....says something may appear in the future. And every one of his posts is to promote a fake kernel for Mr. Trump.


Reality: How many lawsuits did Trump and his cadre of lawyers file about election fraud....and in how many states ?


And how many had any merit at all - I believe more than 60 were thrown out, and 1 had some merit.
Of course Salty will say the courts didn't give them enough time to gather their evidence.
They have had plenty of time now to gather evidence.


Trump said he had proof of election fraud - but you were required to call his election committee to find out more about it. He couldn't present it himself.


When will Trump supporters wake up ? It has become almost disgusting that conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory are dreamt up, with no proof ever provided.


It would be better to move to Russia and put up conspiracy theories about all the dead bodies of Putin critics, suicide generals, and dead Pravda reporters. At least you would have some success....until you expired yourself.

... Blimey! ... Rasmussen Reports and the Heartland Institute did one!

A voter survey - and what did they find?

One-in-Five Mail-in Voters Admit that they Cheated in the 2020 election! Originally Posted by Salty Again

Glad to see Salty is citing his actual source. I found the link for everyone here:

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._2020_election

And no, the Tiktok video didn't "debunk" anything.


For what it's worth, here's my own view:

Yes, the incidence of voter fraud was higher in 2020 than in previous elections - for the simple reason that mail-in ballots are far more susceptible to it. Some states mailed out ballots to every voter on their (out-of-date) registration lists - whether they were requested or not! What happened to all of them?

I also believe the fraud that occurred in 2020 was not on a sufficient scale to have changed the outcome of the national Presidential election. Even if we could go back and invalidate all of the fraudulent ballots (we can't), Biden would still have won. Look at the margins he racked up in states like Michigan (154,000) and Pennsylvania (80,000). There's no way a recount could have flipped those leads.

I gave up on Trump when he wouldn't give up on losing the election. It showed terrible judgment on his part. Even if he sincerely believed the election was stolen from him, he would have bolstered his future political viability by conceding. He could have said there were plenty of reasons to think the Dems cheated, but for various reasons it couldn't be remedied in the courts, so he was regretfully bowing out to fight another day. Had he done this (like Nixon did in 1960), then Jan. 6th would never have occurred and Trump would in all likelihood now be leading Biden in the polls for a 2024 rematch by 10-15 points instead of only 4-5 points.

Why not just accept Trump lost, like we did when he won!? We all got over it... Originally Posted by eyecu2

Yes, Trump lost. No, your side didn't "accept" it when he won in 2016. Now you're just trying to rewrite history.

Granted, Hillary did formally concede. But then she allowed her phony dirty tricks Steele dossier to be pedaled to the FBI and the media in an attempt to undermine & distract the Trump administration, triggering the Mueller investigation with that bogus & ultimately debunked Russian collusion narrative. And how about all those far-left jackasses who proclaimed themselves the "resistance" and waved placards for 4 years saying "Not my President!" Did they "accept" the 2016 election result? Did they ever "get over it"?

What is absolutely showing up now is that republicans have tried to redraw more gerrymandering districts and been told to pound salt by courts, and more attempts at stripping voters of their 15th, 19th, and 24th amendments of rights... Originally Posted by eyecu2

Nonsense. The most egregious gerrymandering is taking place in New York, Illinois and California. Why don't you mention those states? Oh wait, those are deep blue Dem states, aren't they?

Do you even know what those 3 Constitutional amendments are all about?

15th - Ratified in 1870 thanks to the tireless efforts of the Republican Party. It granted former slaves (and all citizens of color) the right to vote. Democrats controlled the Southern states and for the next century they worked hard to circumvent the 15th Amendment using literacy tests, poll taxes, and various other forms of suppression & intimidation. The 15th Amendment has nothing to do with how states draw up their political districts.

19th - Ratified in 1920. Guaranteed women's suffrage. Again, it had nothing to do with how states should determine their political district boundaries.

24th - Ratified in 1964. Outlawed poll taxes which were still being imposed BY DEMOCRATS in Southern states to suppress the African-American vote. Are you claiming Republicans are now trying to bring back poll taxes? Where the fuck do you come up with this nonsense?