Share employment info with provider

Currently without any reference, but verified through P411. If a reputable lady (based on TER review over a year) asked for employment info for verification (she is on P411, but still asked for it), would you be comfortable providing the info?

I am still kind of hesitating.

Thanks

Give a provider you don't know your real name and where you work? What could possibly go wrong? Oh wait...

Move on to someone less onerous or just see a good newbie friendly provider to get an okay or two on p411. It's slim pickins on p411 for newbie friendly but you can search and find a decent one that appeals to you I am sure. Many providers on there will see someone with 1 okay particularly the touring ladies. After about 2-3 okays it's a complete non issue.

I'd say it's her "right" to ask for more info, but it's also my right to feel I've sufficiently met a mutually beneficial level of screening/verification and can choose to see someone else if she won't accept whats provided.

From what I understand P411 does a pretty good job of screening gents, so I'd think that would be sufficient. I personally would find someone else to see in that situation.

sounds like an open opportunity for blackmail to me

I thought the whole point of P411 was to get the screening/verification done just once through P411's system so that you don't have to continually go through the process each time you want to see a new provider.

If you were verified through P411, I wouldn't see the need to ask for additional info. I guess it's really up to you and how bad you want to see her. If you feel uncomfortable and hesitant about it now, it's probably just best to stick to your gut instinct.

Some providers want to be sure that they are safe. And to trust someone else to screen for them may not make them feel that way.

Think of it like this. If you have your oil changed and you drive off then a few miles down the road you find out that they forgot to put the plug back in. Now your car is crap and you will need a new engine. Yes it is their fault for not putting the plug in, but that doesn't change the fact that you are stuck on the side of the road without a car.

Too many people worry about blackmail and the like. But yet they are willing to let the same woman they are worried about give them BBBJ. REALLY do you know how much pressure she has to bite down with to change your life forever.

I am not saying that you should freely give out your info. I am just saying that most of these ladies are just looking to protect themselves.

Currently without any reference, but verified through P411. If a reputable lady (based on TER review over a year) asked for employment info for verification (she is on P411, but still asked for it), would you be comfortable providing the info?

I am still kind of hesitating.

Thanks Originally Posted by bluefantasy

Both of you are on P411. That should be good enough. You would be foolish to to give an Escort your employment info. I wouldn't give P411 that kind of info.

Thanks all for the comments. It's probably going to be more enjoyable sessions without concerning the employment info. I will pick newbie friendly ladies first to get some references.

what really is the point of a provider checking employment? I mean most of the LE i know... have 2nd jobs.... and if they want to put a sting together, seriously how hard would it be to put together a fake job? If on p411 id trust gina's screening.

what really is the point of a provider checking employment? I mean most of the LE i know... have 2nd jobs.... and if they want to put a sting together, seriously how hard would it be to put together a fake job? If on p411 id trust gina's screening. Originally Posted by Devon Derriere

Thank you! That's what I've been telling people for years. Trust me, it gets easier and easier with technology to set up fake scenarios in a sting.

what really is the point of a provider checking employment? I mean most of the LE i know... have 2nd jobs.... and if they want to put a sting together, seriously how hard would it be to put together a fake job? If on p411 id trust gina's screening. Originally Posted by Devon Derriere

You've contradicted yourself a bit here. If you don't think there's a point of a provider checking employment why then would you trust Gina's screening on p411 which consists of an employment check (assuming they didn't go the vouch route).

I happen to agree with you that it's not a foolproof system and in fact acts as somewhat of a false sense of security. I think it's more a case of "something is better than nothing". Clearly the vast majority of providers agree that simply being p411 verified isn't enough otherwise there would be more newbie friendly on there instead of requiring 2-4 okays like the majority.

You've contradicted yourself a bit here. If you don't think there's a point of a provider checking employment why then would you trust Gina's screening on p411 which consists of an employment check (assuming they didn't go the vouch route).

I happen to agree with you that it's not a foolproof system and in fact acts as somewhat of a false sense of security. I think it's more a case of "something is better than nothing". Clearly the vast majority of providers agree that simply being p411 verified isn't enough otherwise there would be more newbie friendly on there instead of requiring 2-4 okays like the majority. Originally Posted by SpiceItUp

Just because they pass the screening on P411 doesn't mean they won't try any funny business or worse. I'd think that's more reason for requiring OKs than LEO screening

You've contradicted yourself a bit here. If you don't think there's a point of a provider checking employment why then would you trust Gina's screening on p411 which consists of an employment check (assuming they didn't go the vouch route).

I happen to agree with you that it's not a foolproof system and in fact acts as somewhat of a false sense of security. I think it's more a case of "something is better than nothing". Clearly the vast majority of providers agree that simply being p411 verified isn't enough otherwise there would be more newbie friendly on there instead of requiring 2-4 okays like the majority. Originally Posted by SpiceItUp

As a reputable newbie friendly provider, I would agree that NO amount of screening is fail proof. However, I like to eliminate the fear in meeting someone new and I am never available short notice. So any information that you can provide that assures me that you're not looking to inhibit my freedom is fine with me. I have never been steered wrong by employment verification, and if you don't have any Okay's on P411, I consider you unscreened. Gina's not going to go to jail for me if I meet the police.

If I were a gent, I would avoid companions who do not screen, or are too desperate in their approach. They are the low hanging fruit that the police are looking for. You are the client who will get suckered in during a reverse sting. I know some of you like the thrill of the unknown, and maybe you have nothing to lose. More power to you, and I pray daily for your safety. But your focus is in the wrong place if your biggest fear is getting blackmailed by some provider.

Be observant and mindful in all things. Information required in screening should never be unreasonable. But a Companion who cares for herself enough to screen inadvertently cares for your safety too.

I never give out my RL info to anyone in the hobby world-- never have; never will. Ladies who can't respect this a paranoid beyond pale. There has to be some level of trust. You don't see me asking for the ladies real life info. It is just bad form for either party to engage in this.

As a reputable newbie friendly provider, I would agree that NO amount of screening is fail proof. However, I like to eliminate the fear in meeting someone new and I am never available short notice. So any information that you can provide that assures me that you're not looking to inhibit my freedom is fine with me. I have never been steered wrong by employment verification, and if you don't have any Okay's on P411, I consider you unscreened. Gina's not going to go to jail for me if I meet the police.

If I were a gent, I would avoid companions who do not screen, or are too desperate in their approach. They are the low hanging fruit that the police are looking for. You are the client who will get suckered in during a reverse sting. I know some of you like the thrill of the unknown, and maybe you have nothing to lose. More power to you, and I pray daily for your safety. But your focus is in the wrong place if your biggest fear is getting blackmailed by some provider.

Be observant and mindful in all things. Information required in screening should never be unreasonable. But a Companion who cares for herself enough to screen inadvertently cares for your safety too.


Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

+1

And also, its okay to get creative with your screening...