I wouldn't sweat it...no guy is going to get much sympathy from anyone for offering a lower rate & having you refuse.
Originally Posted by Toyz
And the guy in question probably knows it. Sounds like he was just throwing a tantrum to see if it would get him anywhere. Time to buy stock in diaper wipes. The beuaty of it is that because the OP exercise discretion in not naming him, he can only hurt himself now by making a stink on the board. That's the queen's gambit opening move right there!
But, to me, it's demeaning to both people in the process. By negotiating, I show I'm either broke, or cheap,... I'm neither. And the person possessing the item I want has a price, why demean them? Instead of a NEW car, maybe it's worth buying a used one to save $10K +, but then again, maybe not.. but don't insult the seller!!! Geeze fella.(s)
Originally Posted by nuglet
I view the hobby a little differently than I do other expenditures, so I basically agree there and I don't haggle. But in pretty much every other investment, I couldn't (politely) disagree more with your reasoning. Ambit and counter offers are how buyers and sellers signal to each other what value they place on a product or service. It's not an insult for a buyer to signal that they don't place the same value. On the contrary, if buyers merely do or do not buy, but never signal the seller at what price point they
would buy, the seller is left to guess for what they can successfully sell their wares. If I buy a house, I am not paying the ambit offer unless it's the same or above what I would have offered to begin with.
This has absolutely nothing to do with being broke or cheap. It has to do with as an adult recognizing the value of a dollar and wanting to accomplish the most with my money. Money is merely a paper or digital chit that I can put to work for me in our trade-based economy. The more wisely I invest it, the more I can do with it. It's that simple. And that's
why I'm neither cheap nor broke. If I were to spend more freely simply to maintain the conspicuous illusion of wealth, I would be considerably less wealthy. That is a status anxiety that only the
extremely wealthy can afford. Which is fine for them and not something I begrudge those in a position to literally not care about money. I am not trying to pretend to be them. I'm happy with being reasonable flush.
Just my 5¢