Bodyrub with no HE?

I'm no stranger to the Bodyrub scene in H and in neighboring cities. I probably go, on average, once per week for the last 5 years. Probably seen 60 girls total, and of those, most of my total visits have been with 5-7 of them. There are a very small handful that I even grab coffee or a sandwich with sometimes, just to chat about our kids, world affairs, the sad state of pop music, and so on. (If you spend an hour at a time, alone, with various people, you're bound to make a friend now and then, I suppose).

In the vast majority of office or apartment incall visits we get along great: plenty of friendly chit-chat and laughs. I'm pretty far on the "non-pushy" side of the spectrum; other than a hug at the door, I don't touch them until they "Touch" me, and I never try to cajole them into anything that they say "no" to. In 95+% of the cases this has served me well and I'm *very* satisfied with the visits to my long-time regulars: not wanting for *anything* at all, really.

But, once in a while, I'll go to a new place, and it's clearly the kind of place I'm seeking (found it via an ad with sexy photos at one of the usual web locations), and we'll be having the usual friendly discussion and laughing, and I've paid at or above the "standard" amount -- but then at the end, before the "ending" I clearly expect -- they just walk out.

Now that I'm writing this out I realized something: In all cases, these sessions involve a towel placed over my butt/crotch at the beginning. I've tried knocking it out of the way with a boner, and that hasn't worked, they've just put the towel back. I even thought maybe this was part of a certain subset of people that won't do anything the first time you come, you have to be a repeat -- so I tried going twice to a certain place and that didn't work either.

So, what do you think the situation is? Are they expecting me to ask them for it explicitly? That doesn't seem like something they'd want, since it could be recorded. Are they expecting me to grab their hand and put it on my crotch? That doesn't seem right either -- I know I wouldn't appreciate that, if I were in their shoes. Maybe it's a situation where the chemistry just isn't right...I have had several ladies tell me I look and act like a cop. Totally open to thoughts about this, and I'm also willing to accept that I'm doing everything "right" but I'm simply not everyone's cup of tea...

First post -- long time reader. Thanks for reading!

Dear Long-time listener first time caller,

well you gave em a hint. they're not stupid. they know why the towel dropped. but dont you usually get asked what you want? i always got that at the spas. but i dont go much. i always get the willies at those amps. i'm always checking exits n testing windows n shit..

maybe tell the boss lady what you're looking for. if they already think ur legit, she's gonna get it and hook you up. she wants you back as a customer.

Sincerely, px.

As you said...You look and sound like a cop. If that's the case it will take more than 2 visits. You need to find a way to not sound like a cop. How? I dunno tell her you're going to a pornstar convention or strip club with your boys or ask her about her relationship status to mentally loosen her up. Stop trynna sound like your smart and cool especially if you already look like a cop. You're makin it worse. Since you're white ask her to play some Cardi B or other trap music...maybe 21 Savage, Lil Baby or Migos...instead of that bullshit relaxation music they play in the the Asian parlors.

It's kinda hard if you already look like a cop. Lol

Folks, thanks.

It sounds like these places, and me, are just on different wavelengths. I've already got a thing that works most of the time (indy girls that are members of my local culture, with whom subtleties of communication are natural) -- and judging by the amount of these places, they've got a thing that works for them most of the time, too.

The main thing I'm hearing is that, not having been born yesterday, they *do* know why I'm there and what I'm trying to get across, they're just not sure about me.

It was mentioned above that the AMP places give the heebie-jeebies to someone. They do for me, too, since they seem like easy, prominent places for cops to come harass if they need to fill a quota, if the new local elected official needs to show that they're "tough on crime", etc... The employees of the AMP places pick up on my trepidation, too, undoubtedly.

So, long story short, not everything is right for everybody, and I guess these joints aren't right for me. Thanks again for the time!

OP....if you have been going once a week to amps for the last 5 years like you stated......you wouldn't be asking these questions.

You would already know the answers.

I've already got a thing that works most of the time (indy girls that are members of my local culture, with whom subtleties of communication are natural) --I guess these joints aren't right for me. Originally Posted by tiimmyturner

If you already have the hookup with your paisans why are you wasting your time & $$ at AMPs?

Oncr a week on average for 5 years

So 1*52*5=260 times and don't k ow shit

Yeah you're a cop

Or just an idiot

so now we know why the OP chooses not to post too much..in the Roman coliseum.

the op apparently radiates "the vibe" that makes them nervous. some people just do. there are some places that post sexy ladies in their ad to draw the guys in, but the lady or ladies don't do any service. not every lady wants to handle every tom, "dick" and harry that comes in.

I've tried knocking it out of the way with a boner, and that hasn't worked Originally Posted by tiimmyturner

This may be the greatest thing I have ever read here on E!

You my friend have some excellent boner control!

First of all, OP talks too much.
OP should talk less and point more.

Bring a money clip and placing it on the table, next to phone, keys, does wonders, when going to a new place, but everybody knows that.

The towel/boner routine may appear as entrapment if OP gives out LE vibes.

I find that MP providers are most likely about “selling the fantasy”, where as AMP providers are more about, “show me the money”.

Is it a culture thing? Most definitely. It’s more about financial hardship that becomes the determining factor. Either that or expensive purses and shoes.

Is it about chemistry? The either do or they don’t. Chemistry determines how YMMV.

OP sounds like he enjoys the chase more than anything else, especially if he thinks he’s witty or charming enough to score extras without forking out a dime.

First of all, OP talks too much.
OP should talk less and point more.

Bring a money clip and placing it on the table, next to phone, keys, does wonders, when going to a new place, but everybody knows that.

The towel/boner routine may appear as entrapment if OP gives out LE vibes.

I find that MP providers are most likely about “selling the fantasy”, where as AMP providers are more about, “show me the money”.

Is it a culture thing? Most definitely. It’s more about financial hardship that becomes the determining factor. Either that or expensive purses and shoes.

Is it about chemistry? The either do or they don’t. Chemistry determines how YMMV.

OP sounds like he enjoys the chase more than anything else, especially if he thinks he’s witty or charming enough to score extras without forking out a dime. Originally Posted by jojo79

brand new member with all kinds of spa knowledge. interesting.

Lol, wonder how long it will take him to mention bear spray

A simple fix to provider's thoughts of you looking, acting or being deemed a cop, just reach out and touch her pussy, done and done. Judging by what you say, I reckon you have a hairstyle similar to LE. Back in 2015 or so, I had a Kgirl at the now closed Expo Spa ask me if I was LE, I answered "no, of course not" she didn't seem convinced, she told me to touch her, I did, the rest is history.