Joe Namath Defends NFL Protest to Fox & Friends

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I'm disappointed in Joe Namath. He knows better to try to placate both sides of the issue.

Namath was responding to Mike Dikta's comment on oppression.
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Mike Dikta:
All of a sudden it’s become a big dealing now about oppression. There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of.

mike is wrong on that. I think he misspoke. last 50 years? no, but the previous 50 years for sure.
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I saw the segment. He said you shouldn't protest at the work place a couple times. He couldn't be clearer on that. He said if Ainsley was carrying a poster protesting something on the show her bosses would put an end to it. He went on to say he never walked a mile in a black mans shoes. He understood where they are coming from. He played for Bama in the 60s. I'm sure he saw some things going on there..I thought he was pretty level headed about it.
  • grean
  • 10-11-2017, 11:47 AM
I think at this point, if the players want the message to continue to resonate in a positive way, they are going to have to change the method they convey that message. Kneeling for the anthem now is causing the message to be lost.
I think at this point, if the players want the message to continue to resonate in a positive way, they are going to have to change the method they convey that message. Kneeling for the anthem now is causing the message to be lost. Originally Posted by grean

Over the long haul, if the players persist with this "protest", not only will the message lose its substance, the players themselves will inevitably lose., as well The Golden Rule will prevail (ie: He, With the Gold, Rules). These multi-billionaires (all 32 of them, last count) will put a stop to this simply by colluding, first, then one by one, blackballing the individuals who choose to make kneeling during the anthem an issue. It'll take some time to purge them but rest assure, the owners can make that happen.

And don't think it can't. Big Picture: when you get down to the core of the matter, the owners don't give a flying rat's ass about any of these players' politics or their social (justice) causes.....truly.

All that matters to Goodell and the owners who pay him is keeping butt$ in the $eat$, $pon$or$ happy, and the (TV) rating$ arrow pointed up while Growing the $hield. Anything outside of that (ie: this anthem protest) is an undesired irritation....and the owners will not tolerate having their pre-game shows hijacked for much longer.
  • grean
  • 10-11-2017, 02:48 PM
And don't think it can't. Big Picture: when you get down to the core of the matter, the owners don't give a flying rat's ass about any of these players' politics or their social (justice) causes.....truly.

All that matters to Goodell and the owners who pay him is keeping butt$ in the $eat$, $pon$or$ happy, and the (TV) rating$ arrow pointed up while Growing the $hield. Anything outside of that (ie: this anthem protest) is an undesired irritation....and the owners will not tolerate having their pre-game shows hijacked for much longer. Originally Posted by Chateau Becot
I have a slightly swisted theory on the owners attitudes towards it.

I think they don't mind the pre-game being hi jacked because the protests actually got people to watch albeit perhaps briefly than would have otherwise.

As long a they feel they get more viewers than they lose because of the protests, they will continue.

Jerry from Dallas, knows his audience and probably calculated correctly that in this regional viewing market, Cowboys taking a knee would lose more. Thus he won't allow players to kneel.

San Francisco is almost the opposite. The owner will encourage his players to exercise their 1A right.

Whats even more craven is I think the 49ers owner realizes that players doing so will adversely affect their message now but doesn't care. He wants them to kneel for the ratings.

San Francisco is almost the opposite. The owner will encourage his players to exercise their 1A right.

Whats even more craven is I think the 49ers owner realizes that players doing so will adversely affect their message now but doesn't care. He wants them to kneel for the ratings. Originally Posted by grean

Ahhhh, I see. So....that explains why Kaepernick is no longer wearing a 49er uniform....right?

Let's review:

Freedom to protest. Freedom to lose (more) games (even to ridiculously bad teams.....like Indianapolis). And the freedom to (currently be) OH and FIVE. Being winless is ALWAYS a formula for (great) ratings regardless of what antics are being demonstrated on the sidelines.
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I have a slightly swisted theory on the owners attitudes towards it.

I think they don't mind the pre-game being hi jacked because the protests actually got people to watch albeit perhaps briefly than would have otherwise.

As long a they feel they get more viewers than they lose because of the protests, they will continue.

Jerry from Dallas, knows his audience and probably calculated correctly that in this regional viewing market, Cowboys taking a knee would lose more. Thus he won't allow players to kneel.

San Francisco is almost the opposite. The owner will encourage his players to exercise their 1A right.

Whats even more craven is I think the 49ers owner realizes that players doing so will adversely affect their message now but doesn't care. He wants them to kneel for the ratings. Originally Posted by grean
You can't be that stupid, can you............
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I'm disappointed in Joe Namath. He knows better to try to placate both sides of the issue.

Namath was responding to Mike Dikta's comment on oppression.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/coac...ast-100-years/

Mike Dikta:
All of a sudden it’s become a big dealing now about oppression. There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of.

mike is wrong on that. I think he misspoke. last 50 years? no, but the previous 50 years for sure. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm
That's Mike Ditka for ya. Mike Ditka could be stuck in 1985. Oppression didn't exist with the 1985 Bears. Here ya have a group of Misfits with really average talent ending up in the same place together. Everyone really loved the game and they all simply clicked together. I guess the planets were lined up just perfectly over Chicago in 1985. There just isn't any oppression when you're kicking everybody's ass. As far as Joe Namath, well he and "Jack Daniels" have had a thing going on for a long time, lol.

Jim
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That's Mike Ditka for ya. Mike Ditka could be stuck in 1985. Oppression didn't exist with the 1985 Bears. Here ya have a group of Misfits with really average talent ending up in the same place together. Everyone really loved the game and they all simply clicked together. I guess the planets were lined up just perfectly over Chicago in 1985. There just isn't any oppression when you're kicking everybody's ass. As far as Joe Namath, well he and "Jack Daniels" have had a thing going on for a long time, lol.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
The Bears had 3 HOFs on D plus a several more All Pros on that team. Misfits? You can say that about most professional sports teams. Ditka and Namath grew up in hard scrabble WPA towns. Both great guys. Lots of white people were oppressed 100 years ago here. That's why unions were created. But the country grew and matured. Nobody is oppressed today. Ditka is a more hard core personality than Namath. But they both supported standing for the Anthem. That's the bottomline. BTW Jim, Ditka is no stranger to whiskey.
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You can't be that stupid, can you............ Originally Posted by bambino
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Good Bye NFL. I watched you since Joe played in the Super Bowl, first game I remember watching. I played football from 10 yrs old till 17 but I won't miss you. Satanic halftime shows are NOT my thing. Good Luck NFL!

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The Bears had 3 HOFs on D plus a several more All Pros on that team. Misfits? You can say that about most professional sports teams. Ditka and Namath grew up in hard scrabble WPA towns. Both great guys. Lots of white people were oppressed 100 years ago here. That's why unions were created. But the country grew and matured. Nobody is oppressed today. Ditka is a more hard core personality than Namath. But they both supported standing for the Anthem. That's the bottomline. BTW Jim, Ditka is no stranger to whiskey. Originally Posted by bambino
Well they were kind of Misfits doesn't mean they weren't good players. Jim McMahon was half blind, he drove Ditka crazy not to mention Pete Roselle probably wanted to strangle him with that headband stunt, lol. William Perry he went from Defensive guy to Offensive stardom. Peyton was a practical joker he got everybody. Mike Singletary was a bit undersized for a Middle Linebacker. But they all had a lot of heart. Maybe misfits is a bit harsh. They were just a group of fun loving guys that knew how to win. They had fun, these players today they don't know how to have fun. Namath with his white cleats and his fur jackets, lol. They were entertainers.

Jim
Well they were kind of Misfits doesn't mean they weren't good players. But they all had a lot of heart. Maybe misfits is a bit harsh. They were just a group of fun loving guys that knew how to win. They had fun, these players today they don't know how to have fun. They were entertainers.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
Correct, Jim, on all points and more. I recall sitting (disheartened) at Texas Stadium in the mid-80's as those same Bears dismantled the Cowboys one afternoon....I believe the final score was 44-0. Danny White and Crew had no answer for this ultra-talented squad that day.

Looking back (as many football historians have mused) Chicago fans are still left with the frustration of only one Super Bowl appearance and championship from that group. With so much talent and so many first-team All Pros (let alone those who ended up in Canton) how could they only make it to the Big Game once?