WHY ARE PROVIDERS REQUIRING REFERENCES IF THEY ARE NOT REFERENCE FRIENDLY?!!

I don’t understand what has happened?? I have been a provider for many years and have always been reference friendly as long as I have seen them within a year. I have never had a reason not to help out the gentleman who want to see another provider. This is also for the safety of the providers as well!! When I see a providers profile or ad that states they require at least two references but they are not reference friendly it just doesn’t make sense to me??? I prefer now that they send any reference request via a pm and not a text for #’s can change for some, but to not be reference friendly for others just doesn’t make since to me. The providers that check references take a lot of time out of their day to make sure they are meeting someone that is safe same goes for the hobbyist who collect the information to send to us. You could at least respond to us and tell us you are not reference friendly instead of completely ignoring our request. If you are NOT reference friendly, please let the clients know before they see you as well.
Just common courtesy in my opinion.
ARE WE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR OTHERS ANYMORE??
Stay Safe Always,
Jessica UTR

Hello there pretty lady!
Many reasons ladies don't/won't be a reference.
Jealousy, plain laziness, they don't want to lose a regular, they don't care for the inquiring lady for whatever reason....
These days most don't look out for anyone but themselves.
I totally agree they should state their reference policies.
But as they like to say,
"my pussy, my rules!".
Good luck

Hello there pretty lady!
Many reasons ladies don't/won't be a reference.
Jealousy, plain laziness, they don't want to lose a regular, they don't care for the inquiring lady for whatever reason.... Originally Posted by MarcellusWalluz

Naive question, perhaps, but do providers really get jealous of other providers seeing a regular of theirs? I mean, how many different men do they see per day, not to mention per month? If a client gets jealous of her having sex with other men, he's considered "catching feelings" and needs to be cut off. How do they honestly justify that hypocrisy?

Naive question, perhaps, but do providers really get jealous of other providers seeing a regular of theirs? I mean, how many different men do they see per day, not to mention per month? If a client gets jealous of her having sex with other men, he's considered "catching feelings" and needs to be cut off. How do they honestly justify that hypocrisy? Originally Posted by secondHandNews

It's not about catching feelings for them. It's about NOT catching the Bemjamins.

It's not about catching feelings for them. It's about NOT catching the Bemjamins. Originally Posted by pittlicker

Understood. I was trying (rather poorly) to make a functionally equivalent comparison. Women want money; men want sex. If we're not "allowed" to get jealous of her having sex with other men, she shouldn't get jealous of us giving our money to other women.

And.. many providers have "Managers" that answer texts, emails etc so they wont even see the reference requests and the "managers" don't want to lose $$$ so they get ignored.

I'm aways happy to give a refs ,,but he had to see me in the last year or I'll say he was fine/or a ass wipe lol, when I last saw him if it's been over a year and then provider needs to do her own screening or just go off that I saw him 2 years ...

When a gent ask see me and he only has 1-2 refes that are over a year and he's not someone who hobbys a lot , I will ask about him and say I know it been 2 years that you seen this gent ,but I'm just making sure he has seen a provider before and then if she say yes she recall's him I say thank you so much and then do the rest of his screening myself.

Some providers will contact the client who gave her as a reference to another provider and ask him to come see her for $20 off or something similar so he spends his money on her.

Naive question, perhaps, but do providers really get jealous of other providers seeing a regular of theirs? I mean, how many different men do they see per day, not to mention per month? If a client gets jealous of her having sex with other men, he's considered "catching feelings" and needs to be cut off. How do they honestly justify that hypocrisy? Originally Posted by secondHandNews

You would be surprised!! I am saddened that it has come to this. Hopefully things will change for the better.
I thought sharing was caring..lol!!
What happened to looking out for people’s safety?
Knowing that we are both compatible with each other before we meet is also important to some. Some of us just don’t see anyone and everyone…idk?

And.. many providers have "Managers" that answer texts, emails etc so they wont even see the reference requests and the "managers" don't want to lose $$$ so they get ignored. Originally Posted by ben dover

So I guess we need to start a thread asking for providers who are truly reference friendly to save us all time, and $$$. It Would definitely be a more beneficial than threads about who has the biggest boobs..lol!!

So I guess we need to start a thread asking for providers who are truly reference friendly to save us all time, and $$$. It Would definitely be a more beneficial than threads about who has the biggest boobs..lol!! Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

I find providers not on a review boards are more refes firendly!

It Would definitely be a more beneficial than threads about who has the biggest boobs..lol!! Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

Just FYI nipples are allowed now so it's a good time for all the ladies to update their upper body pictures! 😘

I don’t understand what has happened?? I have been a provider for many years and have always been reference friendly as long as I have seen them within a year. I have never had a reason not to help out the gentleman who want to see another provider. This is also for the safety of the providers as well!! When I see a providers profile or ad that states they require at least two references but they are not reference friendly it just doesn’t make sense to me??? I prefer now that they send any reference request via a pm and not a text for #’s can change for some, but to not be reference friendly for others just doesn’t make since to me. The providers that check references take a lot of time out of their day to make sure they are meeting someone that is safe same goes for the hobbyist who collect the information to send to us. You could at least respond to us and tell us you are not reference friendly instead of completely ignoring our request. If you are NOT reference friendly, please let the clients know before they see you as well.
Just common courtesy in my opinion.
ARE WE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR OTHERS ANYMORE??
Stay Safe Always,
Jessica UTR Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

Idk, it’s always perplexed me as well. Did you ask her? Then again, I didn’t know UTR ladies posted in forums or used references. Idk…apparently everything has changed.

Some providers are now even asking tricks to pay them so they can use them as a reference lol wtf...i seen it on twitter and most providers agreed to that.

I don’t understand what has happened?? I have been a provider for many years and have always been reference friendly as long as I have seen them within a year. I have never had a reason not to help out the gentleman who want to see another provider. This is also for the safety of the providers as well!! When I see a providers profile or ad that states they require at least two references but they are not reference friendly it just doesn’t make sense to me??? I prefer now that they send any reference request via a pm and not a text for #’s can change for some, but to not be reference friendly for others just doesn’t make since to me. The providers that check references take a lot of time out of their day to make sure they are meeting someone that is safe same goes for the hobbyist who collect the information to send to us. You could at least respond to us and tell us you are not reference friendly instead of completely ignoring our request. If you are NOT reference friendly, please let the clients know before they see you as well.
Just common courtesy in my opinion.
ARE WE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR OTHERS ANYMORE??
Stay Safe Always,
Jessica UTR Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

Being in the hobby means there are things that are necessary for all who partake need to do, not only for themselves, but for others who also participate. IMO, being a reference for another provider to contact really needs to be one of them.

I know there are providers with an axe to grind with some guys for one reason or another, but have not seen them in person let alone for a paid BCD appointment, and others who give great references on guys because they just agree with their opinion on some subjects. But let's face true facts in reality, ONLY if you have actually seen the hobbyist in question BCD should your reference of that hobbyist hold any water.