Do you understand yet??

1960’s- oil will be gone in 10 years
1970’s- another ice age in 10 years
1980’s-acid rain will destroy all crops in 10 years
1990’s- the ozone layer will be gone in 10 years
2000’s- ice caps will be gone in 10 years

None of this happened mind you ; but they all resulted in MORE TAXES !

Do the Big Picture simpletons notice the trend?

The main message is that humans ARE killing the environment. Little by little.

Those taxes and environmental laws have helped reducing toxins in the environment (climate)

Maybe so. But, it's worth pointing out that the world's oil supply took millenia to develop and was only really utilized within the past 100-150 years. "New" oil (not newly discovered reserves) is definitely not being made at the current level of consumption, so sireserves will be depleted at some point. When? Does is really matter if it's 50 or 100 years to your children or grandchildren...scarcity will probably impact their lifetime's. Uses for oil other than gas for cars is not often discussed, but they are myriad and there may not be substitutes on the horizon for some....Haven't heard about a transcontinental 777 or Airbus yet.

So yeah, keep working the oilfield. I'll be long gone, but the imperial "WE" will have some 'splaining to do to the next generation or two. Unfortunately, many don't think beyond their own moment in time.

The main message is the climate criers have a weak minded audience to peddle their ridiculous BS. The real ice occurred without benefit of any man help. The 40 day and 40 night rain, BTW a record that will never be broken, occurred before men had the necessary means to harm the environment (climate). Phenomenal events that have escaped Gore and Lurch. To those there is no rebuttal.

Apples and oranges.
There is definitely natural cycles in climates.
But humans are creating pollutants and toxins killing our planet.
Time for some responsibility to be taken
To say humans have had no negative impact on the climate/environment is a total falsehood . Easily fact checked

That is if you believe there was a global flood at all...and the key word is believe...not fact...most of the Bible is allegorical, not fact. And yes, mankind had minimal impact on the environment in the past, but not sure that statement applies to the last generation or three, or future generations.

The main message is the climate criers have a weak minded audience to peddle their ridiculous BS. The real ice occurred without benefit of any man help. The 40 day and 40 night rain, BTW a record that will never be broken, occurred before men had the necessary means to harm the environment (climate). Phenomenal events that have escaped Gore and Lurch. To those there is no rebuttal. Originally Posted by oilfieldace

Climate Criers like Potato face John Kerry jet setting around the globe on a private jet.
I do not listen to these Science Criers. I am not going to change one damn thing in my lifestyle to appease these criers.

Apples and oranges.
There is definitely natural cycles in climates.
But humans are creating pollutants and toxins killing our planet.
Time for some responsibility to be taken
To say humans have had no negative impact on the climate/environment is a total falsehood . Easily fact checked Originally Posted by winn dixie

Omg

Yes
NO
NO
NO. You do it

Winn Dixie and Reddog, What do you propose to do about it?

United states emissions in the year 2000 were 6 gigatons and 23% of the world total. In 2021, our emissions were 4.7 gigatons and 12.5% of the world total. We cut our emissions by 20.8%, close to Europe's 22.4% over the same time period. Our success was due in no small part to substituting cleaner burning natural gas over coal.

In the same time, Chinese emissions increased from 3.7 gigatons to 12.5 gigatons, and Indian emissions increased from 1 gigaton to 2.6 gigatons.

https://edgar.jrc.ec.europa.eu/report_2022

China and India and other developing countries are continuing to add coal fired generating capacity.

The USA has very little control over the future of carbon emissions. China, India and other developing countries will determine what happens in the future. What are we going to do about that? Tell Indians they can't have air conditioning?

At present, wind and solar provide little in the way of base load electrical generating capacity. They only work when the wind blows and the sun shines. Maybe battery technology will change that someday. Or maybe not. The cost, environmental impact, and even carbon emissions required to produce all the steel, lithium, nickel, cobalt, etc. would be huge. Remember that there's no substitute for coking coal or petrocoke in steel production right now. It may not be possible to get to "0" net emissions unless we're willing to lower our living standards substantially. Or implement WD's population control strategy.

So how about getting base load capacity from nuclear you say? Well, that's unlikely to happen in the USA because of pressure from environmentalists and the courts. And, again, what difference will that make when U.S. carbon emissions are destined to be just a drop in the bucket, compared to developing countries, anyway?

We probably should spend more money on geoengineering research, like spraying sulfuric acid in the upper atmosphere. There are smaller steps too, like a new white paint that reflects 98% of sunlight so it doesn't heat the earth.

Bjorn Lomborg has written some good stuff on this topic. You start spending tens or hundreds of trillions of dollars to go to 0 net carbon emissions by 2040 or 2050 and you're going to crowd out a lot of other spending. We could eliminate world hunger and malaria with a small fraction of the money we'll be spending to get to "0" net carbon in the developed world.

If Bernie Sanders et al get their way it would basically end the oil and gas industry. I'm not sure whether Biden deserves to be in the same category. Certainly based on his campaign platform in 2020 he does. But his bark has turned out to be worse than his bite, due in no small part to political considerations (i.e. high gasoline prices) and the courts which, for example, caused him to call off his drilling permit ban on federal leases.

Climate Criers like Potato face John Kerry jet setting around the globe on a private jet.
I do not listen to these Science Criers. I am not going to change one damn thing in my lifestyle to appease these criers. Originally Posted by Vulva

Yeah. One of the proposals to get to 0 net emissions is to limit people to one vacation trip a year by air travel, obviously not on a private jet. I wonder how that will play with the Kerry crowd.

Kerry said him owning a private jet was a lie perpetrated by the right. If the United States was at zero emissions today ,it wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference. Man made climate change is pure horseshit, all you that believe it switch your lifestyles and do your part. Hey y’all been sold snake oil and lapping it up as fast as those rich mother fuckers you claim to hate regurgitate it. If it wasn’t so sad , it would be comical. Looking at the “ BIG PICTURE’ humans are insignificant in the grand scheme of climate change . Polluting the water and trashing the country side ( environment) is almost all human

The main message is that humans ARE killing the environment. Little by little. Originally Posted by winn dixie

Main message is we're all gonna die and we did not, but at lease our bank accounts got pilfered by the Professional Politicians, aka Politburo.

... Easily fact checked Originally Posted by winn dixie

So just do it already, with a twist - use Actual, imperial evidence instead of Opinions. <-- catch the Apples/Oranges double entendre? Go on with your fine self. We'll wait. But do keep in mind, the Actual OP is not actually about climate change, it's about using false alarms and fear-porn to draw more taxes from you.

So just do it already, with a twist - use Actual, imperial evidence instead of Opinions. <-- catch the Apples/Oranges double entendre? Go on with your fine self. We'll wait. But do keep in mind, the Actual OP is not actually about climate change, it's about using false alarms and fear-porn to draw more taxes from you. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

I'm on topic. The taxes being paid is to help regulate inspect and keep polluters in check. Humans are changing the climate. Fact
Folk can deny away