“We sleep soundly in our beds, because rough men stand ready in the night to do violence on those who would harm us"
George Orwell 1942
- ICU 812
- 07-29-2022, 04:35 PM
- HedonistForever
- 07-29-2022, 05:56 PM
And who has more "rough men", the US or China? Our military leaders have recently announced that they can no longer meet their recruiting goals..... by a long shot and that only 23% of our 18 to 24 year olds could even get into our military. They are to stupid, to physically inept and lack the motivation it takes for a strong fighting force.
The sad truth is, America is losing the capability to fight China, if we haven't already. I'm as pro-America as you can get but I recognize where the left has taken this country, to a more "equitable military". Do you think China is making flight suits for their pregnant female fighter pilot's?
Hell, China is doing human experimentation to alter the DNA of their soldiers to feel less pain, be stronger and bred without fear while we are becoming pussies. There is no other way to put it.
https://www.biospace.com/article/is-china-using-crispr-to-create-super-soldiers-/
Is CRISPR in use to Create China Super Soldiers?
Has China discovered a super-soldier formula through the capabilities of genetic engineering? A U.S. government official claims this is exactly what is happening, China Super Soldiers are under development.
Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe penned an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal that claims the Chinese government is attempting to enhance the capabilities of soldiers through genetic engineering. It’s not the first time such a claim has been made. Ratcliffe’s article, cited in an NBC report, outlined his belief that China is the greatest threat to the United States in terms of military and economic power.
THE THEORY OF CHINA SUPER SOLDIERS
Ratcliffe’s concerns build on theories raised in 2019 about China’s capabilities with CRISPR, particularly after Chinese researcher He Jiankui used CRISPR-Cas9 gene editing to alter the DNA of embryos for seven couples in 2018. Although international outrage resulted in Jiankui’s incarceration in China, Ratcliffe suggested the Chinese government would attempt to capitalize on these capabilities with gene editing and continue to experiment on adults to create biometrically advanced China super soldiers the likes we have seen only in movies.
Ratcliffe isn’t the first to follow this line of reasoning. Last year, some researchers posited the Chinese government would attempt to use the gene-editing capabilities of CRISPR to enhance the performance of some soldiers.
“…the PLA is pursuing military applications for biology and looking into promising intersections with other disciplines, including brain science, supercomputing, and artificial intelligence,” Elsa Kania and Wilson Vorndick wrote in Defense One last year.
In their column, Kania an expert on Chinese defense technology at the Center for a New American Security, and Vorndick, a consultant on China matters and former U.S. Navy officer, said the People’s Liberation Army of China highlighted exploiting biology as a priority in its strategic writings. The researchers said biotechnology development is “gradually showing strong signs characteristic of an offensive capability.” For them, that includes the possibility that “specific ethnic genetic attacks” could be employed. They cited a 2016 Chinese report which characterized CRISPR-Cas technology as one of “three primary technologies that might boost troops’ combat effectiveness, i.e. developing China super soldiers.” In addition to potential gene editing, the 2016 paper suggested that soldiers could be given the drug modafinil due to its cognitive enhancement applications.
Regarding the use of CRISPR in China, Kania and Vorndick noted that many of the ongoing experiments in this field are being conducted at PLA facilities. China’s institutions have emerged as “major centers for research in gene editing and other new frontiers of military medicine and biotechnology,” they wrote.
"While the potential leveraging of CRISPR to increase human capabilities on the future battlefield remains only a hypothetical possibility at the present, there are indications that Chinese military researchers are starting to explore its potential,” they wrote.
In an interview with NBC, Vorndick said he is less concerned about battlefield enhancements and the creation of China super soldiers than he is with the consequences of using gene editing to make dramatic enhancement changes in humans. He stressed concern for unforeseen consequences that could arise from attempting to conduct such experiments on humans.
And do we think China will give a shit about that like we would?
In 2018, a study raised concerns about those unforeseen consequences. The study published in Nature Biotechnology shows that the technique could cause “extensive mutations and genetic damage.” Not only can the gene-editing technique cause cellular damage, but Geneticists from the Wellcome Sanger Institute also said the genetic damage can be difficult to discover through standard DNA tests.
In the study researchers found that the gene-editing technique deleted thousands of DNA bases – some of them that were not close to the spot of the initial edit, the researchers said. The concern was raised because some of the deletions can silence genes that are supposed to be active, or on, as the researchers noted, and activate some genes that should be turned off – particularly genes that can cause cancer.
Therefore, the development of China super soldiers will not be an easy task to complete, there are still many loopholes in the experiment that will make the overall process slow.
Wanna bet that is what was said regarding "gain of function" research on how to weaponize a virus to be better at attacking human beings?
Sorry folks but unless China completely falls apart in the next decade or so, they will be the dominate economic and military power on the planet and to put it in words Joe Biden can understand, "that's a fact Jack".
The sad truth is, America is losing the capability to fight China, if we haven't already. I'm as pro-America as you can get but I recognize where the left has taken this country, to a more "equitable military". Do you think China is making flight suits for their pregnant female fighter pilot's?
Hell, China is doing human experimentation to alter the DNA of their soldiers to feel less pain, be stronger and bred without fear while we are becoming pussies. There is no other way to put it.
https://www.biospace.com/article/is-china-using-crispr-to-create-super-soldiers-/
Is CRISPR in use to Create China Super Soldiers?
Has China discovered a super-soldier formula through the capabilities of genetic engineering? A U.S. government official claims this is exactly what is happening, China Super Soldiers are under development.
Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe penned an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal that claims the Chinese government is attempting to enhance the capabilities of soldiers through genetic engineering. It’s not the first time such a claim has been made. Ratcliffe’s article, cited in an NBC report, outlined his belief that China is the greatest threat to the United States in terms of military and economic power.
THE THEORY OF CHINA SUPER SOLDIERS
Ratcliffe’s concerns build on theories raised in 2019 about China’s capabilities with CRISPR, particularly after Chinese researcher He Jiankui used CRISPR-Cas9 gene editing to alter the DNA of embryos for seven couples in 2018. Although international outrage resulted in Jiankui’s incarceration in China, Ratcliffe suggested the Chinese government would attempt to capitalize on these capabilities with gene editing and continue to experiment on adults to create biometrically advanced China super soldiers the likes we have seen only in movies.
Ratcliffe isn’t the first to follow this line of reasoning. Last year, some researchers posited the Chinese government would attempt to use the gene-editing capabilities of CRISPR to enhance the performance of some soldiers.
“…the PLA is pursuing military applications for biology and looking into promising intersections with other disciplines, including brain science, supercomputing, and artificial intelligence,” Elsa Kania and Wilson Vorndick wrote in Defense One last year.
In their column, Kania an expert on Chinese defense technology at the Center for a New American Security, and Vorndick, a consultant on China matters and former U.S. Navy officer, said the People’s Liberation Army of China highlighted exploiting biology as a priority in its strategic writings. The researchers said biotechnology development is “gradually showing strong signs characteristic of an offensive capability.” For them, that includes the possibility that “specific ethnic genetic attacks” could be employed. They cited a 2016 Chinese report which characterized CRISPR-Cas technology as one of “three primary technologies that might boost troops’ combat effectiveness, i.e. developing China super soldiers.” In addition to potential gene editing, the 2016 paper suggested that soldiers could be given the drug modafinil due to its cognitive enhancement applications.
Regarding the use of CRISPR in China, Kania and Vorndick noted that many of the ongoing experiments in this field are being conducted at PLA facilities. China’s institutions have emerged as “major centers for research in gene editing and other new frontiers of military medicine and biotechnology,” they wrote.
"While the potential leveraging of CRISPR to increase human capabilities on the future battlefield remains only a hypothetical possibility at the present, there are indications that Chinese military researchers are starting to explore its potential,” they wrote.
In an interview with NBC, Vorndick said he is less concerned about battlefield enhancements and the creation of China super soldiers than he is with the consequences of using gene editing to make dramatic enhancement changes in humans. He stressed concern for unforeseen consequences that could arise from attempting to conduct such experiments on humans.
And do we think China will give a shit about that like we would?
In 2018, a study raised concerns about those unforeseen consequences. The study published in Nature Biotechnology shows that the technique could cause “extensive mutations and genetic damage.” Not only can the gene-editing technique cause cellular damage, but Geneticists from the Wellcome Sanger Institute also said the genetic damage can be difficult to discover through standard DNA tests.
In the study researchers found that the gene-editing technique deleted thousands of DNA bases – some of them that were not close to the spot of the initial edit, the researchers said. The concern was raised because some of the deletions can silence genes that are supposed to be active, or on, as the researchers noted, and activate some genes that should be turned off – particularly genes that can cause cancer.
Therefore, the development of China super soldiers will not be an easy task to complete, there are still many loopholes in the experiment that will make the overall process slow.
Wanna bet that is what was said regarding "gain of function" research on how to weaponize a virus to be better at attacking human beings?
Sorry folks but unless China completely falls apart in the next decade or so, they will be the dominate economic and military power on the planet and to put it in words Joe Biden can understand, "that's a fact Jack".
- Mplay
- 07-29-2022, 07:17 PM
I’m older my fil served on Iwo Jima. That generation was called upon and succeeded. It’s why we succeed. I was the generation after and had it excellent.Generations later have been raised weak and soft. Western society is going to be faced with brutal war. Will see how the feelings generations do. I suspect they are so easily manipulated with media it won’t be that bad for them .
- ICU 812
- 07-29-2022, 07:28 PM
Dunno how many "rough men" China has, but they probably have more men of any sort than we have bullets!
Some lib at NPR made up T-Shirts years ago that said, "Stop the violins. Imagine whirled peas!"
Some lib at NPR made up T-Shirts years ago that said, "Stop the violins. Imagine whirled peas!"
- the_real_Barleycorn
- 07-29-2022, 07:33 PM
Orwell in 1984:
Government changes the meaning of words to confuse the populace (see recession, investment, evacuation, weapon of war, assault weapon, white supremist, racist, et. al.)
Government calls on a moment of rage towards perceived scapegoats (see January 6th hearing, some good people comment, Russia, Russia, Russia, and anything TRump related).
Government reduces the number of allowable words to reduce the power of the people to protest (see groomer, gay, drag queens, criticism of bills, criticism of certain subsets of people, et. al.)
Government uses its power to silence critics with fear of possible arrest (see January 6th committee, see ATF, see cancel culture)
Government using sex as a weapon (see trans this and that)
Government changes the meaning of words to confuse the populace (see recession, investment, evacuation, weapon of war, assault weapon, white supremist, racist, et. al.)
Government calls on a moment of rage towards perceived scapegoats (see January 6th hearing, some good people comment, Russia, Russia, Russia, and anything TRump related).
Government reduces the number of allowable words to reduce the power of the people to protest (see groomer, gay, drag queens, criticism of bills, criticism of certain subsets of people, et. al.)
Government uses its power to silence critics with fear of possible arrest (see January 6th committee, see ATF, see cancel culture)
Government using sex as a weapon (see trans this and that)
- Jackie S
- 07-29-2022, 08:44 PM
Orwell in 1984:38 years late, but we are there..
Government changes the meaning of words to confuse the populace (see recession, investment, evacuation, weapon of war, assault weapon, white supremist, racist, et. al.)
Government calls on a moment of rage towards perceived scapegoats (see January 6th hearing, some good people comment, Russia, Russia, Russia, and anything TRump related).
Government reduces the number of allowable words to reduce the power of the people to protest (see groomer, gay, drag queens, criticism of bills, criticism of certain subsets of people, et. al.)
Government uses its power to silence critics with fear of possible arrest (see January 6th committee, see ATF, see cancel culture)
Government using sex as a weapon (see trans this and that) Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
- HedonistForever
- 07-29-2022, 09:15 PM
I’m older my fil served on Iwo Jima. That generation was called upon and succeeded. It’s why we succeed. I was the generation after and had it excellent.Generations later have been raised weak and soft. Western society is going to be faced with brutal war. Will see how the feelings generations do. I suspect they are so easily manipulated with media it won’t be that bad for them . Originally Posted by Mplay
Well the bright side for them I guess, is that they will have already been indoctrinated in living in a Communist country so maybe it won't be so bad for them, the ones that are left.
Our military is being reduced to a less than fighting force and to be truthful, I don't know how we'll ever change Generation Z to become another of the "greatest generation".
We are on our last leg as a great nation but by God we'll all be equally poor and life will be "equitable" for everyone..............that's left after the "last great war".
- HedonistForever
- 07-29-2022, 09:16 PM
- HedonistForever
- 07-29-2022, 09:20 PM
Dunno how many "rough men" China has, but they probably have more men of any sort than we have bullets!
Some lib at NPR made up T-Shirts years ago that said, "Stop the violins. Imagine whirled peas!" Originally Posted by ICU 812
And they are all training and getting their head around the idea that they are training to KILL the enemy and nothing else matter and certainly not worried you will be court marshaled because you can't remember the preferred pronoun of every "person" in your unit. This is all so sickening.
- Yssup Rider
- 07-30-2022, 08:45 AM
Gotta pay attention when someone posts something that begins with “The theory of…”
Keep theorizing, my friends.,
Keep theorizing, my friends.,
- bb1961
- 07-30-2022, 12:48 PM
Is it like posting threads that theorize Trump is headed to jail...asking for a friend 
- JohnnyGleet
- 07-31-2022, 10:32 AM
According to Camille Paglia, obsession with transgenderism is a symptom of a culture in decline.
- Salty Again
- 07-31-2022, 10:39 AM
- Yssup Rider
- 07-31-2022, 10:44 AM
Ah. That's bringing it full circle, Saultey!
George Orwell and John Cougar.
Fair dinkum.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!
George Orwell and John Cougar.
Fair dinkum.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!
- Salty Again
- 07-31-2022, 04:27 PM
You surely gotta be the envy