More GOPers say Trump is too dangerous to vote for.

111 Former G.O.P. Officials Back Harris, Calling Trump ‘Unfit to Serve’

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/u...dorsement.html

More than 100 former national security officials from Republican administrations and former Republican members of Congress endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris on Wednesday after concluding that their party’s nominee, Donald J. Trump, is “unfit to serve again as president.”

In a letter to the public, the Republicans, including both vocal longtime Trump opponents and others who had not endorsed Joseph R. Biden Jr. in 2020, argued that while they might “disagree with Kamala Harris” on many issues, Mr. Trump had demonstrated “dangerous qualities.” Those include, they said, “unusual affinity” for dictators like President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and “contempt for the norms of decent, ethical and lawful behavior.”

“As president,” the letter said, “he promoted daily chaos in government, praised our enemies and undermined our allies, politicized the military and disparaged our veterans, prioritized his personal interest above American interests and betrayed our values, democracy and this country’s founding documents.”

The letter came not long after former Vice President Dick Cheney and his daughter, former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, both said they would vote for Ms. Harris. Democrats featured a number of anti-Trump Republicans at their nominating convention last month, including former Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois. Mr. Pence has said he will not endorse Mr. Trump but has not endorsed Ms. Harris.

The 111 signatories included former officials who served under Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush or George W. Bush. Many of them had previously broken with Mr. Trump, including two former defense secretaries, Chuck Hagel and William S. Cohen; Robert B. Zoellick, a former president of the World Bank; the former C.I.A. directors Michael V. Hayden and William H. Webster; a former director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte; and former Gov. William F. Weld of Massachusetts. Miles Taylor and Olivia Troye, two Trump administration officials who became vocal critics, also signed.

But a number of Republicans who did not sign a similar letter on behalf of Mr. Biden in 2020 signed the one for Ms. Harris this time, including several former House members, like Charles W. Boustany Jr. of Louisiana, Barbara Comstock of Virginia, Dan Miller of Florida and Bill Paxon of New York.

In their letter, the Republicans acknowledged concerns about “some of the positions advocated by the left wing of the Democratic Party,” and some of them have been quite critical of the Biden-Harris administration. Just last year, Mr. Zoellick wrote a newspaper essay eviscerating Democratic economic policies. But the letter said that “any potential concerns” about Ms. Harris “pale in comparison to” those over Mr. Trump.

Read the letter here https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphic...00612-full.pdf

Let's not forget the comments that he has absolutely no idea of what the Constitution means, or any sort of oath to support it. As a matter of fact, didn't Trump try to say that in fact did not say an oath of loyalty to the Constitution in order to get out of trouble??

... Thanks fer showing that, Tx-Dot... Let's take a gecko at the list.
Just who is on - or not on it.

Crikey! ... MORE than 100 National Security Officials! ...
Hmmmmm... Wonderin' IF any o' them are past or present members of
U.S. Intelligence - who told all of America those LIES about
Hunter's laptop. ...

Dick and Liz Cheney? ... Are they on the list? ... If not - why not??

Mike Pence? ... What? He hasn't endorsed Kamala yet?? ... Blimey!
The Teamsters won't endorse her either. ...

Let's see who else... Chuck Hagel... No surprise...
Crikey! ... Look at that! ... Former CIA head Michael Hayden.
One o' those "Trump colluded with The Russians" blokes...

As well as Myles Taylor and Olivia Troye - two Trump critics once
they were shown the door. ... RINO Repubs Barbara Comstock and
Bill Paxon. ... FORMER House members...

... Reckon those must be the onley "Republicans" of note.
Blimey! ... Where's Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney??
What's taking THEM so long to endorse Kamala? ...

#### Salty

... Thanks fer showing that, Tx-Dot... Let's take a gecko at the list.
Just who is on - or not on it.

Crikey! ... MORE than 100 National Security Officials! ...
Hmmmmm... Wonderin' IF any o' them are past or present members of
U.S. Intelligence - who told all of America those LIES about
Hunter's laptop. ...

Dick and Liz Cheney? ... Are they on the list? ... If not - why not??

Mike Pence? ... What? He hasn't endorsed Kamala yet?? ... Blimey!
The Teamsters won't endorse her either. ...

Let's see who else... Chuck Hagel... No surprise...
Crikey! ... Look at that! ... Former CIA head Michael Hayden.
One o' those "Trump colluded with The Russians" blokes...

As well as Myles Taylor and Olivia Troye - two Trump critics once
they were shown the door. ... RINO Repubs Barbara Comstock and
Bill Paxon. ... FORMER House members...

... Reckon those must be the onley "Republicans" of note.
Blimey! ... Where's Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney??
What's taking THEM so long to endorse Kamala? ...

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Don't forget the traitor milley.

Let's not forget the comments that he has absolutely no idea of what the Constitution means, or any sort of oath to support it. As a matter of fact, didn't Trump try to say that in fact did not say an oath of loyalty to the Constitution in order to get out of trouble?? Originally Posted by eyecu2

Your main man harris, obamas, and piglosi are walking a very fine line on the 25th. A very fine line. We all know joe is out and she's semi running the country. However obama has been in joes ear since day one of the 3rd obama term.


I may not like Biden, but as an AMERICAN I want the constitution followed.


Meanwhile Putin, Xi, Fat boy, and the Iranians are whopping it up, just waiting the bitch to be inaugurated so they can take over. Trump keeps out of wars and has experience with these bad guys, while they laugh at the cackling bitch. A vote for her is a vote for WWIII, only after the people of Israel are bombed off the face of the earth by harris, and her American hating bitches in the democratic house.

Your main man harris, obamas, and piglosi are walking a very fine line on the 25th. A very fine line. We all know joe is out and she's semi running the country. However obama has been in joes ear since day one of the 3rd obama term.

I may not like Biden, but as an AMERICAN I want the constitution followed.

Meanwhile Putin, Xi, Fat boy, and the Iranians are whopping it up, just waiting the bitch to be inaugurated so they can take over. Trump keeps out of wars and has experience with these bad guys, while they laugh at the cackling bitch. A vote for her is a vote for WWIII, only after the people of Israel are bombed off the face of the earth by harris, and her American hating bitches in the democratic house. Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

I want people to actually understand the 25th amendment. The Obama’s and Pelosi don’t have anything to do with the 25th amendment. The Cabinet and the VP are the only people who can invoke section 4 of the 25th amendment.


Section 4

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.


P.S. your comments about WW3 and the chances thereof appear to be a little remote.

111 Former G.O.P. Officials Back Harris, Calling Trump ‘Unfit to Serve’

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/u...dorsement.html

More than 100 former national security officials from Republican administrations and former Republican members of Congress endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris on Wednesday after concluding that their party’s nominee, Donald J. Trump, is “unfit to serve again as president.”

In a letter to the public, the Republicans, including both vocal longtime Trump opponents and others who had not endorsed Joseph R. Biden Jr. in 2020, argued that while they might “disagree with Kamala Harris” on many issues, Mr. Trump had demonstrated “dangerous qualities.” Those include, they said, “unusual affinity” for dictators like President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and “contempt for the norms of decent, ethical and lawful behavior.”

“As president,” the letter said, “he promoted daily chaos in government, praised our enemies and undermined our allies, politicized the military and disparaged our veterans, prioritized his personal interest above American interests and betrayed our values, democracy and this country’s founding documents.”

The letter came not long after former Vice President Dick Cheney and his daughter, former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, both said they would vote for Ms. Harris. Democrats featured a number of anti-Trump Republicans at their nominating convention last month, including former Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois. Mr. Pence has said he will not endorse Mr. Trump but has not endorsed Ms. Harris.

The 111 signatories included former officials who served under Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush or George W. Bush. Many of them had previously broken with Mr. Trump, including two former defense secretaries, Chuck Hagel and William S. Cohen; Robert B. Zoellick, a former president of the World Bank; the former C.I.A. directors Michael V. Hayden and William H. Webster; a former director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte; and former Gov. William F. Weld of Massachusetts. Miles Taylor and Olivia Troye, two Trump administration officials who became vocal critics, also signed.

But a number of Republicans who did not sign a similar letter on behalf of Mr. Biden in 2020 signed the one for Ms. Harris this time, including several former House members, like Charles W. Boustany Jr. of Louisiana, Barbara Comstock of Virginia, Dan Miller of Florida and Bill Paxon of New York.

In their letter, the Republicans acknowledged concerns about “some of the positions advocated by the left wing of the Democratic Party,” and some of them have been quite critical of the Biden-Harris administration. Just last year, Mr. Zoellick wrote a newspaper essay eviscerating Democratic economic policies. But the letter said that “any potential concerns” about Ms. Harris “pale in comparison to” those over Mr. Trump.

Read the letter here https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphic...00612-full.pdf Originally Posted by txdot-guy

and how many of those 100 former national security officials signed that knowingly fraudulent letter claiming a certain laptop was "Russian Disinformation"?

I want people to actually understand the 25th amendment.



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Originally Posted by txdot-guy

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Here, take your pick of which article to read, they mostly state the same thing. That biden was forced out by his fellow democrats.



https://www.google.com/search?client...oe+to+drop+out

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Here, take your pick of which article to read, they mostly state the same thing. That biden was forced out by his fellow democrats.



https://www.google.com/search?client...oe+to+drop+out Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

And apparently you have read none of these articles because they have NOTHING to do with the 25th amendment.

There is no link between being the president and running for the office of president. They are two separate and distinct entities.

The 25th amendment is used to temporarily remove power from the presidency to the next in line of succession.

When Biden was convinced to drop out of the race for the presidency in 2025 that had absolutely nothing to do with his presidency in 2024. What about this do you not understand?

What about this do you not understand? Originally Posted by txdot-guy

ah, maybe..................your denial.

During the Helsinki 2018 USA-Russia meeting, Trump became Putin's #1 bottom b*tch and embarrases himself and the United States on the world stage.

Concerning Russia's meddling in the 2016 election, Trump stated: "President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be."

He stated that despite all the evidence the CIA and FBI had against Russia.

Trump is in the pockets of Russia, China, North Korea and Isreal. That is not Presidential material to me! Thank goodness that chapter is finally closing this November!

John, reading is fundamental. Try it.

I would speculate that there are far fewer Democrat officials who would say the same bout Harris as so many Republicans are saying about Trump. It,would be interesting to do a side by side distaste test.

Sure, the RIÑO All-Stars know who Trump is and what he does. That’s why the MAGAs call all conservative Americans who don’t mindlessly follow Trump RINOs. Easy to write off half the party until it’s Election Day. Hopefully calling Harris a cunt and claiming pets are in danger will bring enough of them back to salvage the day for Twitler. But I don’t think that’s gonna happen this time, just as it didn’t last time.

The MAGA cult speaks a different language. Perhaps Duolingo or Babel will offour a course in MAGA so the rest of us can decipher the shit that Trump says. Maybe then will we be able to find common ground with the cult.

But that growing list of GOP officials is right. Trump is unfit to serve.

During the Helsinki 2018 USA-Russia meeting, Trump became Putin's #1 bottom b*tch and embarrases himself and the United States on the world stage.

Concerning Russia's meddling in the 2016 election, Trump stated: "President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be."

He stated that despite all the evidence the CIA and FBI had against Russia.

Trump is in the pockets of Russia, China, North Korea and Isreal. That is not Presidential material to me! Thank goodness that chapter is finally closing this November! Originally Posted by USAsoldier

USAS, save your breath. The ones that suck on the melange ones teat. He has been selling out the USofA before he got to office, while in office, and after.
Never America First. The Big Cheato first.

The maggies continually choose to turn a blind eye to those facts.

and how many of those 100 former national security officials signed that knowingly fraudulent letter claiming a certain laptop was "Russian Disinformation"? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

What part of this is about Trump being too dangerous like the OP stated? I must have missed the part on that!

More whataboutisms from the redhat folks

... Hey Tx-Dot - need to ask you - WHAT is a "GOPer"??
Should have asked this when you started the thread.

... Is a GOPer someone who has NO MORE SWAY or say-so with
the Republican "MAGA" party?? ... If so, then their opinions(s)
surely matter NOT to the Republican party.

Good riddance - as I've mentioned.

#### Salty