Farm Bailout so far has doubled the Auto Bailout of 2009

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  • 12-07-2019, 02:15 PM
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Boy if the Farmer were Unionized our right wing loons would be bitching
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Trump's food stamp cuts are cruel politics and bad economics


Economic analysis has long recognized SNAP as one of the government's best policies in terms of stimulating more economic growth. Because SNAP benefits go to Americans struggling to make ends meet, they immediately spend the money, which enters the economy as additional consumption, boosting business revenues and increasing job creation. Republicans often complain about how SNAP's spending automatically went up during the Great Recession as incomes fell and more Americans' qualified for the program. But this too is a good thing: it means SNAP immediately steps in to boost the economy during a downt[ur]n, without anyone having to wait for Congress to proactively pass new laws.

https://theweek.com/articles/882480/...-bad-economics



Farmers would rather have trade, instead of aid. They get welfare while the poor get nothing.









Trump's food stamp cuts are cruel politics and bad economics





https://theweek.com/articles/882480/...-bad-economics



Farmers would rather have trade, instead of aid. They get welfare while the poor get nothing.









Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
Sure the money gets spent and that appears good for the economy.

What does it do for the soul of the man who can't make it in the competitive marketplace?
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Boy if the Farmer were Unionized our right wing loons would be bitching Originally Posted by WTF

farmers have been getting Government subsidies for decades yet the press wants to portray this as a result of Trump's trade policies. bullshit. farmers with any real knowledge of their industry knew or should have known that the path would not be seamless and not without some short term pain. the long term is the goal. they should know their overall potential long term with fair trade is greater and it should eliminate the subsidies they've been getting for decades. the US should have cut the aid off long ago and let them sink or swim by the market. if that means large corporate farms and no small farmers so be it. the large corporate agriculture companies don't get subsidies. and they shouldn't. neither should some spudtard farmer in Idaho.


unions suck. they are passe. their usefulness now is nothing more than political entities where the rank and file have no say on how a portion of their dues are used in politics. so much for the rights of the worker, eh??


100 years ago unions did have a purpose. as labor evolved in the early days of the industrial revolution so did labor law which eventually obviated unions. unions today drive up costs unnecessarily, they inflate the wages of industries and make products made in the US noncompetitive with other nations. a classic example is the US auto industry. the added cost to a US car due strictly to unions is several thousand dollars. the US auto bailout would have been unnecessary if there were no unions.


i know that's a tough nut for you to tug sparky butt it's the truth.


Trump's food stamp cuts are cruel politics and bad economics





https://theweek.com/articles/882480/...-bad-economics



Farmers would rather have trade, instead of aid. They get welfare while the poor get nothing.


Originally Posted by eccieuser9500



do the poor deserve aid if they make no attempt to better themselves with employment? i say no. Trump's policy that you cite is intended to cut off the freeloaders who use welfare as a free ride. this is common with the black community as you certainly know. it's not just a black issue however it certainly seems to be disproportionate with blacks. we've all seen the stories about the single black girls who crank out kids for the welfare. no wonder absentee fathers are such a huge impact in the black community yeah? hmmm. so maybe that welfare you think is so precious and some sort of fundamental human right is actually fundamentally undermining black families? interesting concept isn't it? now keep espousing your "socialism is great" mantra while you watch black families be destroyed by it.



have a nice capitalist day!
  • oeb11
  • 12-07-2019, 03:31 PM
95 turkeys is happy to install socialism and spread everyone elses's money into DPST shitholes like Baltimore and NYC.

One does not see 95 turkeys lining up to donate time or money to education, job training, rehabilitation, and self reliance through employment or self entrepreneurship. Oh No - DPST handouts are the only way to create equal income throughout America - except for the Socialist nomenklatura!
Why do you care? President Trump is getting us out of wars and if Nancy would have passed the USMCA, the China deal would already be done and most of the subsidies wouldn't be necessary.
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Sure the money gets spent and that appears good for the economy.

What does it do for the soul of the man who can't make it in the competitive marketplace? Originally Posted by friendly fred

The world will never know as long as lenders, agribusiness and insurers know there is a safety net that keeps them from finding out when they "can't make it in the competitive market place".

https://www.investopedia.com/article...al-bailout.asp

In addition to the $700 billion bailout, this article will look at five financial crunches in the past century that necessitated government intervention:
  • The Great Depression
  • The savings and loan bailout of 1989
  • The collapse of Bear Stearns, an investment bank and brokerage firm
  • American International Group (AIG), an insurance colossus with global reach
  • Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, two government-backed mortgage lenders
the US should have cut the aid off long ago and let them sink or swim by the market. if that means large corporate farms and no small farmers so be it. the large corporate agriculture companies don't get subsidies.


Are you sure about your last statement?

Agricultural Subsidies


The federal government spends more than $20 billion a year on subsidies for farm businesses. About 39 percent of the nation's 2.1 million farms receive subsidies, with the lion's share of the handouts going to the largest producers of corn, soybeans, wheat, cotton, and rice.1

  1. U.S. Department of Agriculture, "2012 Census Highlights: Farm Economics," ACH12-2, May 2014. See also Environmental Working Group, Farm Subsidy Database, https://farm.ewg.org.








do the poor deserve aid if they make no attempt to better themselves with employment? i say no. Trump's policy that you cite is intended to cut off the freeloaders who use welfare as a free ride. this is common with the black community as you certainly know. it's not just a black issue however it certainly seems to be disproportionate with blacks.



have a nice capitalist day! Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
It seems that way to a prejudicial point of view. Check out Wyoming, Vermont, South Dakota, North Dakota, New Hampshire, Montana, Idaho, Hawaii and Alaska. Don't forget the disabled and elderly. You can call me a bleeding heart. I'll call you a heartless miser.

Poverty Rate by Race/Ethnicity

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D



95 turkeys is happy to install socialism and spread everyone elses's money into DPST shitholes like Baltimore and NYC.

One does not see 95 turkeys lining up to donate time or money to education, job training, rehabilitation, and self reliance through employment or self entrepreneurship. Oh No - DPST handouts are the only way to create equal income throughout America - except for the Socialist nomenklatura! Originally Posted by oeb11

Poor little, little crying fuckin' hypocrite.

AWWWW - Poor DPST's complaining about their own lack of "Diversity"
They face a POTUS they are Impeaching - what is to worry????
Not enough candidates of color - and of course - the DPSY's aren't RACIST about their platform. Sure looks like they don't like their white candidates.

Of course - Warren is 1/1024 "Indian" - although he tests are South American DNA - she can put on a sombrero and spout - Ai, ai , ai , ai!!!
Poor Racist DPST's
- stuck with old , senile, angry white folks as the "White Meat Alternative " to Trump!


LOL Originally Posted by oeb11
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  • 12-07-2019, 05:21 PM
Why do you care? President Trump is getting us out of wars and if Nancy would have passed the USMCA, the China deal would already be done and most of the subsidies wouldn't be necessary. Originally Posted by gnadfly
It's all Nancy's fault!

Were you pissed Congress didn't pass the Pacific Trade Agreement?
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  • 12-07-2019, 05:42 PM
farmers have been getting Government subsidies for decades



have a nice capitalist day! Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Grasshopper you seem to almost get it....please explain how welfare to farmers for decades is capitalistic?

Have a nice capitalist day!
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Grasshopper you seem to almost get it....please explain how welfare to farmers for decades is capitalistic?

Have a nice capitalist day! Originally Posted by WTF
get what? that you think capitalism sucks? yeah i get it.

and where did i say it was? it's actually socialism which is why it fails.

you'll have to try harder to snatch the capitalist coin from my hand, grasshamster



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The world will never know as long as lenders, agribusiness and insurers know there is a safety net that keeps them from finding out when they "can't make it in the competitive market place".

https://www.investopedia.com/article...al-bailout.asp





It seems that way to a prejudicial point of view. Check out Wyoming, Vermont, South Dakota, North Dakota, New Hampshire, Montana, Idaho, Hawaii and Alaska. Don't forget the disabled and elderly. You can call me a bleeding heart. I'll call you a heartless miser.

Poverty Rate by Race/Ethnicity

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D






Poor little, little crying fuckin' hypocrite. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500



you realize what that list actually shows yeah? what the N/A in the column for Black really means yeah?


N/A: Estimates with relative standard errors greater than 30% are not provided.


i'll let you ponder that for a bit ... poi dog pondering ..



The world will never know as long as lenders, agribusiness and insurers know there is a safety net that keeps them from finding out when they "can't make it in the competitive market place".

https://www.investopedia.com/article...al-bailout.asp

Poverty Rate by Race/Ethnicity

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
Interestingly the white rate of poverty in Puerto Rico exceeds that of the black group - how do you explain that?
Originally Posted by Redhot1960
Melania is beautiful!