Did Trump shutdown the economy back in 2020...not according to Wacko and lustylady but the Gov of Florida thinks so

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  • 03-15-2022, 01:35 PM
you keep saying Trump shutdown the economy. then you wonder why everyone laughs at you.


you know perfectly well Trump didn't want the Governors to implement mass shutdowns of various businesses in their states but they did and Trump could neither order them to do so or not do so.


and you think everyone else in this thread is "stupid" and doesn't "get it"


BAAAHHAAHAAAAA Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
so Eacko....what say you to the Gov of Florida?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ed-with-trumps


Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said Thursday that he disagreed with then-President Trump’s decision to shut down the economy at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic.

DeSantis appeared on conservative podcast "Ruthless," where he claimed that one of his biggest regrets in office is not speaking out “much louder” against the initial COVID-19 shutdown in March 2020.
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  • 03-15-2022, 01:55 PM
Wait....it looks like Trump extended the shutdown.

But how could he extend something that according to Wacko and lustylady, did not happen!

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/gov...until-april-30

President Donald Trump is extending the voluntary national shutdown for a month as sickness and death from the coronavirus pandemic rise in the U.S.

The initial 15-day period of social distancing urged by the federal government expires Monday and Trump had expressed interest in relaxing the national guidelines at least in parts of the country less afflicted by the pandemic. But instead he decided to extend them through April 30, a tacit acknowledgment he'd been too optimistic. Many states and local governments have stiffer controls in place on mobility and gatherings
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DeSantis criticized members of the administration’s COVID-19 response team, including Anthony Fauci, for encouraging economic shutdowns at the beginning of the pandemic.


DeSantis’s state of Florida followed federal guidance nonetheless by closing schools, gyms, restaurants and other buildings


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you do know the difference between guidance and a order/mandate don't ya?


Trump ordered nothing sparky.
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  • 03-15-2022, 02:30 PM
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DeSantis criticized members of the administration’s COVID-19 response team, including Anthony Fauci, for encouraging economic shutdowns at the beginning of the pandemic.


DeSantis’s state of Florida followed federal guidance nonetheless by closing schools, gyms, restaurants and other buildings


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you do know the difference between guidance and a order/mandate don't ya?


Trump ordered nothing sparky. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
Oh....so Trump guided the economy to shutdown I stand corrected. :laughing1


Was Fauci or Trump the one with the power to "guide"?

Did Trump's "guidance" result in our energy sector to go from energy independence to not?

Maybe you should guide a bank robber on how to steal money. "Guide the teller with your voice and gun." Wacko says!
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Oh....so Trump guided the economy to shutdown I stand corrected. :laughing1


Was Fauci or Trump the one with the power to "guide"?

Did Trump's "guidance" result in our energy sector to go from energy independence to not?

Maybe you should guide a bank robber on how to steal money. "Guide the teller with your voice and gun." Wacko says! Originally Posted by WTF


do you really want to go down the rabbit hole sparky? might be hard to climb out .. but you've got tons of illegals on your cash only payroll don't ya? think they can dig you out?
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  • 03-15-2022, 03:04 PM
do you really want to go down the rabbit hole sparky? might be hard to climb out .. but you've got tons of illegals on your cash only payroll don't ya? think they can dig you out? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid


Do I want to go down this rabbit hole of Trump not shutting down the economy, he just guided it down!

Yea...as a matter of fact, I would!

Maybe you can guide me to a trial where you convinced a rape victim that she wasn't really raped, she was encouraged to fuck the alleged rapists!
... And then a few weeks later - Trump reversed the shutdown.

But, of course some of the Democrat Governours pushed for
closing their-own states - severe lockdowns and forcing
vaxes onto everybody. ... Look at how they gutted all
the businesses. ... Forced closures thanks to Biden and Fauci.

And NOW Biden has stooged-up the country - economy and what-not,
and Fauci has DISAPPEARED!

### Salty
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I agree with Desantis. Shutting off the country was stupid, easily the dumbest thing Trump did in office. In his defense, those idiot projections of millions of Americans dying scared tf out of him. Still a bad decision though.
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Trump ordered nothing sparky. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Just like he never ordered any National Guard troops, old sport
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I agree with Desantis. Shutting off the country was stupid, easily the dumbest thing Trump did in office. In his defense, those idiot projections of millions of Americans dying scared tf out of him. Still a bad decision though. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

everyone here knows including professor poofter that Trump resisted this and only put out guidelines based on so-called experts like Tony "MIA" Fauci (because he's become a political liability to the DemTards) who ignored 100 years of ... SCIENCE that mass shutdowns/lockdowns don't work.


the real question should be .. is Fauci incompetent or complicit?

Just like he never ordered any National Guard troops, old sport Originally Posted by VitaMan

wasn't that the DC police job? or was it the Congressional Sgt. at Arms? you know .. who works for the Speaker of the House? this nasty old cunt ...




bahhahahhaaaaa
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don't get too excited about the word "order" professor poofter .. it's guidance. it never forced anyone to follow it because it has no weight of law at the state level.

remember why i keep lecturing you on what a Federal Republic is ...

how deep is that rabbit hole now professor poofter?


BAAHHAAAAAAAAAA


Trump resists pressure to declare nationwide stay-at-home order

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ome-order?rl=1


President Trump is holding back on declaring a nationwide stay-at-home order, even as some governors resist imposing restrictions that Trump's top public health officials say are needed to slow the spread of the coronavirus.


The president has been reluctant to wade into matters he argues are better left to governors. But the pressure is growing for Trump to be decisive as Republican-led states like Texas, Iowa and Missouri are among the final holdouts to issue stay-at-home directives.


Lawrence Gostin, director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown University, said Trump may not have the legal authority to halt interstate travel or require governors to lock down a state. But the president has yet to fully use the power of his bully pulpit to encourage them to do so.


"What President Trump could do is send a much clearer signal that he wants all governors to do a lockdown on their states, to guide them about what that lockdown would require and what the standard should be," Gostin said.


The U.S. had more than 206,000 confirmed coronavirus cases as of Wednesday afternoon, and roughly 4,500 have died in the U.S. from the virus.


Administration officials have repeatedly stressed the best-case scenario — resulting in 100,000 to 240,000 deaths — will only be attained if Americans rigorously follow federal social distancing guidelines that urge people to stay at home when possible and keep a distance of 6 feet from others when outside.


But since roughly one-third of states have yet to issue statewide stay-at-home orders, there are questions about why the White House allows the patchwork approach to persist in lieu of a firmer national decree.


A former administration official familiar with the situation said the White House discussed the possibility of a national advisory in some form, but at the time the virus had yet to impact swaths of the country enough to warrant serious consideration.


Italy and India have both imposed nationwide lockdowns to try to contain the virus. Trump over the weekend floated a quarantine of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, but backed off amid questions over its legality and enforceability in favor of issuing a travel advisory.


Top U.S. health officials have been careful not to undercut the president and have acknowledged the difficulty some governors face in getting residents to heed something like a statewide lockdown. Instead, they have put the emphasis on federal social distancing guidelines that are in place at least through the end of April, suggesting those are the next best thing to a stay-at-home directive.


"My advice to America would be that these guidelines are a national stay at home order," Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Wednesday on NBC’s "Today" show. "They’re guidelines that say the more we social distance, the more we stay at home, the less spread of disease there will be."


Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, dodged a question about whether the federal government should ask every state to implement a stay-at-home order, telling NBC everybody should "strictly follow" federal guidelines.


And Deborah Birx, the coordinator of the White House coronavirus response, told reporters Tuesday that Trump and Vice President Pence "trust the American people to understand that they can be outside, take walks, be 6 feet away from anyone else and be in their homes, and we trust them to do that without having to lock down."


Governors across the country have largely taken the decision out of Trump's hands. More than 30 states have issued stay-at-home orders for residents. But the holdouts have mostly been red states, including some with large populations that could suffer without stronger mitigation measures.


The president has shown an unwillingness to lean on GOP Govs. Ron DeSantis of Florida or Greg Abbott of Texas to shut down their states, even though DeSantis on Tuesday explicitly said he would do so if the White House urged him to.


"Different kind of a state," Trump said Tuesday when asked about DeSantis's comments. "Also, great governor. He knows exactly what he’s doing. Has a very strong view on it. And we have spoken to Ron."


DeSantis gave in a day later, signing an order Wednesday urging residents to "limit movements and personal interactions outside the home."


The former administration official noted that Trump may be less inclined to push for a more uniform stay-at-home policy because the states without one at the moment are ones where he has strong political support. The president may be wary of triggering backlash among his base, the official suggested.


But the fact that the lack of action is coming from certain red states underscores why Trump should be more involved, Gostin argued.


"The truth is we’re only seeing fairly good social distancing in coastal states but not in southern states like Florida and in the Midwest," he said. "And it’s in those states that he has the most influence to encourage particular red-state governors to do a lockdown. And he could give them political cover to do it."


"He doesn’t have legal power," Gostin added. "But he has enormous influence, particularly in the South and the Midwest, to try to have a much more nationally uniform strategy rather than an utterly inconsistent patchwork across the country."


The consequences of further inaction from states like Texas in particular could be calamitous, experts warn. While states like Washington have seen some success in tamping down the number of coronavirus cases through aggressive social distancing measures, a patchwork system could leave other parts of the country vulnerable and overwhelm the health care system in the coming weeks and months.
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wasn't that the DC police job? or was it the Congressional Sgt. at Arms? you know .. who works for the Speaker of the House? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Per Trump's handlers, and parroted by Trump, it was a "Pelosi led security failure."

Guess that leaves the police out.
And guess it could not have been a "McConnell led security failure."

But you know what Trump calls him now.

Of course we have to believe what Trump says. He is the only person in the world that was #1 in his class (per Trump), and at the same time didn't make the Dean's list.
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Per Trump's handlers, and parroted by Trump, it was a "Pelosi led security failure."

Guess that leaves the police out.
And guess it could not have been a "McConnell led security failure."

But you know what Trump calls him now.

Of course we have to believe what Trump says. He is the only person in the world that was #1 in his class (per Trump), and at the same time didn't make the Dean's list. Originally Posted by VitaMan

what does Trump call you?
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Lord Wacko
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Lord Waco Originally Posted by VitaMan

thank you valued poster