Should Be Common Sense

I posted this thread on "another board" a few years ago. But since I never posted it here I thought it would be appropriate. This is a summarized version of the thread I posted almost three years ago. I've given credit to those that added to my "Top Ten Commone Sense Hobby Survival Guide".

I know it's long. But if you read the BOLD print it should get you by.

01) Delete the history on your computer daily: Unless you are the only one to have access to your computer, sooner or later prying eyes will find sites you don't want seen.

02) Verify visually you have your keys if you lock your car at a session: Pop-a-Lock is a great service but locking your keys in the car causes delays and may require additional explanations when the credit card bill comes in.

03) Secure your cell phone: Turn our cell phone off just prior to walking in the door of a session. We've all heard the stories about accidental calls being made during a session. Delete all sent and received numbers as well as txt messages from your cell. Pretty much the same reasons as clearing your computer history.

03a) Get a "Pay as you Go" cell phone for hobby usage: No paper trail. No monthly bills, with calling record listed. If a provider doesn't like the "pay as you go feature"....Fuck it.... her lack of ability to trace it is another added safety feature.... OUR safety feature! At least one infamous Southern provider has made it clear that she tracks cell phone accounts. (Mr. GIz)

3b) Be prepared if your hobby phone is discovered: Either scratch the hell out of it to make it look like something you picked up or set the phone up with somebody's name that you don't know so that you can say you found it. Be careful how much you try to hide it. (alwayswillngnable)

04) Have an alibi ready for why you're in an area just in case you're seen: Make sure your "reason" for being unavailable does not include another party unless that party knows about it. The key is to keep things simple enough that it's easy to remember but have just enough detail so it's believable.

05) Make sure you have the correct gift: There are enough ways to screw up a session. Stiffing a gal will never endear you to her.

06) Consider the courtesy shower: You've been sitting around all day collecting sweat on your b*lls . Do you really think a provider wants to go there? One gal told me she had a client that smelled like he kept a fish in his pants! Another gal told me the gent had a stench that she could smell through the door. The situation isn't always such that the shower is practical. But a simple, "Mind if I take a quick rinse?" can really make a difference.

07) Use email from a Hotmail or other less traceable service over PM when possible: PMs are left on the aspd server until they're deleted by the recipient. If the horror of all horrors occurs (LE confiscates a lady's computer) LE can log on aspd and read PMs until a MOD is contacted and the account shut down.

08) Do not have the room in your name unless YOU will be the ONLY ONE using it: A couple of years ago there was a story about an attorney in TX that brought a gal in from OK. The plane reservations and hotel room were in his name. The idea was that she would only see him and his hobby friends. She got ambitious and decided to see some other gents. One of the gents turned out to be LE. The attorney's name and face were plastered across the front page; several charges were brought against him.

09) Remember the single bell assumption: Do your homework. Unless an ad or review states msog are available it's more likely than not only one bell will be offered. If the one bell rule is a deal breaker, just go ahead and ask the lady.

10) Tacked to the top of this forum there's a reminder:

No minors, drugs, violence, animals

If any of these items pop up CUT AND RUN! Getting busted for being a john is bad, adding any of those items makes it news.

11) Receipts: Throw away the receipts from your pockets! Any receipts which could place you at a certain location, at a certain time! Have you ever heard of someone who left a receipt in his pocket with condom purchases on it? (Mr. Giz)

12) Credit card bills: Remember the monthly statements... and what info they include! (Mr. Giz)

13. Caution about your e-mail address: Check and see what name your e-mail address delivers along with the screen name. You don't want your name floating out there. So you may need to get a new one. As simple as hitting yahoo and signing up for a new account. It's free. (alwayswillingnable)

14. Don't go home smelling too clean with a different soap: If you've been working and need to take a shower great. Make sure you clean up good afterward too. You don't want to smell like your friend if a f**king miracle happens and somebody at home decides she is going down when you get home. A small travel bottle of your shampoo, your soap is cheaper than.... But don't go home smelling like you just got out of the shower either. During the summer this is easy. Standing outside for ten minutes usually take care of that. (alwayswillingnable)

15. Be prepared that you'll have to swap vehicles one day with you know who: Be careful what you leave in it and where you leave it in it. Those places that she never goes and would never look will be the place that for some reason while she is in your car will be the first place she needs to get something out of. (alwayswillingnable)

15a) Be especially careful with unused raincoats especially if you've had a vasectomy: Ut’s extremely hard to explain them away as balloons for a kid's birthday party. (Cross reference to 16)

16) Bring a raincoat with you: More than once I've had well known and experienced providers discover they had forgotten to pack covers. I always bring a couple of my favorite brand just in case. If I don't use them I'll leave them with the lady.

17) Avoid fronting cash or bartering: If you advance a gal some money it's best to just consider it a true gift. All the gals have good intentions of repaying you, but it's hard for them to turn down "new cash". They have bills to pay too. Bartering service for service never seems to work.

HID

Oh, one item of minor consequence so it doesn't belong in the big 10. Not every gal likes the "surprise" thumb up her butt. OK, I admit it. Someone asked me to mention this one

This should be posted at the top as a great reminder to all players

It has become SOOOOO apparent that there is a severe shortage of common sense these days but it IS understandable that when a gentleman is being guided by the little head that mistakes can be made.

Good list and a refresher course never hurts!

Thanks, HornIDog, It's always good to have a checklist. I'm not married but it's always a good policy to be discreet regardless of marital status. Never have loose ends!

You are very wise Jedi Master, nice helpful list!

Always great to have these reminders fresh in our minds. Thank you for the post..

In addition:

Have an explanation if your hobby phone starts ringing in your trunk when you take your wife to dinner.

Check your shoulders for blonde hairs from your provider when your wife is a brunette.

If you have been very daty, check to make sure your clean when you return to the office.

Have a nice day.

hey horn dog, there is something missing on your list.....let me know if you remember.

Great post from a GREAT mod.

xo
Becky

Horn Dog, considering #7, I have to clarify something. Hotmail is one of the FEW free email services that tags every email sent from it, with the sender's IP address. it's very easy to retrieve. I use my Yahoo as it's safer but never hotmail.
O.K., back to you, Skip.

I would also add that for purchases of a personal nature, pop into the "mart" of your choice or a check cashing store and get a reloadable pre-paid master card. It's a little effort but the result is untraceable purchases and no embarrassing cc statements to explain.

Your thread has a boatload of useful info not just for n00bs but is a gentle reminder. Great thread!

[QUOTE=Dharma; "Your thread has a boatload of useful info not just for n00bs but is a gentle reminder."

Now I KNOW that this is COMPLETELY off subject BUT does the "n00bs" remind anyone else of boobs? More specifically Dharmas "n00bs", I mean boobs!

Dharma, are you sending me subliminal messages again? Naughty girl!

Dharma,
I would dare say that most all email can be traced back to the sender. You may not see all the info as a header of some sort, but it CAN be traced if needed. Even logging on to this website can be traced if needed, fake name or not. The internet is a little more sophisticated than you are giving it credit.

Introuble, I am aware of all of that. Thanks. V, it's not subliminal! And yes, I do like the naughty!

I've asked for permission to post this from another board from the original poster - the original poster is not a member here, but is fine with sharing the information especially if it helps one person out. Please note that I did edit out any private information from his original post:

I work with many divorce attorneys, have provided expert witness testimony and been involved in divorce mediations. I’ve agonized about starting this thread, but finally decided if my experience or insight can help just one member avoid an unwanted divorce then it was worth it.

As strange as this might sound, the most important step one needs to take when participating in this or any hobby is to NOT let it affect the other aspects of their marriage. Many to most women that file for divorce file because they are unhappy in their marriage because their needs are going unfulfilled, not because they catch their husband cheating. There can be a natural progression within this or any hobby that leaves the spouse unfulfilled. I’ve tailored many of the items below to provide examples that specifically relate to the hobby, but you can substitute many hobbies or activities.

1. Many start by seeking the physical needs that they’re not getting fulfilled at home.
2. Then they progress to pillow talk with their ATF and often talk about intimate details within their lives, details they feel they can’t talk about to their wives. Maybe it’s about their fantasies, or wife or fears about their business.
3. Many need to distance themselves from the spouse they love leading up to and immediately following a session.
4. They continue to spend more time on escort forums searching for interesting threads to which they can contribute. They send PM’s and look for the replies.
5. The amount of time on these pursuits keeps increasing, and the amount of time spent on their marriage continues to decrease. They make excuses to spend time on their new hobby at the expense of spending time with their spouse.
6. They attend HHs/Socials/MnG/GTGs for additional friendship. The hobby becomes their primary source of friendship and companionship, one that CAN’T be shared with their wife.

What started as a way to fulfill a missing physical need has morphed to supplant your primary relationship. The hobby has now become your primary relationship. Your spouse may not know or even suspect you are cheating on her, but she ABSOLUTELY knows you are no longer participating in your marriage. She knows you are no longer pursuing her sexually, and even though she usually rejects you, this makes her feel unattractive and unloved. Maybe you even reject her physical advances (hey, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander), and now her physical needs are not being met. More importantly, her emotional and intimacy needs are not being met. This is when she’s no longer happy in the marriage and is likely to file for divorce.

In the interest of attempting to make this post as complete as possible, I will now reiterate many of the ways hobbyists (what do you know, I finally learned to spell it correctly) avoid detection:

• Use a hobby phone
• Keep your hobby phone at work or locked away
• Lock your hobby phone
• Don’t keep texts messages – sent or received
• Don’t keep PMs
• Don’t use your main email account
• Don’t keep emails
• Don’t hobby on the home computer if possible
• Log off computer when done
• Use cash only for donations or gifts
• Don’t keep receipts
• Be able to explain parking or speeding tickets or accidents
• Don’t bring provider to your home
• Don’t be out in public with provider
• Tell provider no perfume or lipstick
• Don’t shower at an odd or non-routine time
• Keep your normal routine at home
• Don’t overcompensate at home
• Meet all your marriage obligations to the best of your ability – physically and emotionally
• Don’t underestimate your wife
• Don’t get complacent in your marriage
• Love your wife and show her
• Have a cover story down pat

Lastly, please remember that participating in this hobby always has its risks. As safe as we may try to be, anyone can catch an unwanted STD by BBBJ, DATY and DFK. You can do all the above perfectly, but still bring an unwanted STD home, so get tested regularly. Originally Posted by Bossman