Panama boots China, and agrees to deal with Trump.

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  • Devo
  • 02-02-2025, 11:45 PM
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Are our ships going to pay less to use the canal?
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  • Devo
  • 02-02-2025, 11:56 PM
Are our ships going to pay less to use the canal? Originally Posted by HDGristle
Well, good question.

Let us know what you find in your research.

Till then, I'm glad it's the USA taking it over.
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  • 02-02-2025, 11:58 PM
But if our ships paid a few cents more, and it helped a, um Impovrished country do better?

Well!

Whose not for that?
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Well, good question.

Let us know what you find in your research.

Till then, I'm glad it's the USA taking it over. Originally Posted by Devo
We're not taking it over. Still Panama's. Getting ahead of yourself. China didn't control it either.
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  • Devo
  • 02-03-2025, 12:02 AM
DAYO!

DAYOOOOEEEO.
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But if our ships paid a few cents more, and it helped a, um Impovrished country do better?

Well!

Whose not for that? Originally Posted by Devo
Trump. He whined mightily about us getting ripped off on rate.

(We're not)
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  • Devo
  • 02-03-2025, 12:11 AM
Trump. He whined mightily about us getting ripped off on rate.

(We're not) Originally Posted by HDGristle
Really.

Can you show canal transit costs for all ships?

Zackly what does it cost, I'll take your baseline assessments, but please indicate what rates US ships pay versus other countries.
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Really.

Can you show canal transit costs for all ships?

Zackly what does it cost, I'll take your baseline assessments, but please indicate what rates US ships pay versus other countries. Originally Posted by Devo
https://pancanal.com/en/tolls-then-and-now/

https://pancanal.com/en/maritime-ser...ritime-tariff/

https://www.greenworldwide.com/panam...ipping-routes/
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  • Devo
  • 02-03-2025, 12:16 AM
https://m.economictimes.com/news/int.../117872447.cms Originally Posted by HDGristle
And?

Pulp.

I want your assessment.

I think once Panama realizes that it's in their interests to stay regional, they'll find us a better partner.
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And?

Pulp.

I want your assessment.

I think once Panama realizes that it's in their interests to stay regional, they'll find us a better partner. Originally Posted by Devo
Doesn't require much assessment, read the toll info and tariff schedule. Lmk when you connect the dots.

It's going to involve tonnage and who owns the ships (not so much whether the goods are U.S. touching). Most goods may be U.S. touching but most ships and operators aren't U.S. based.

Want a U.S. discount? That would violate the neutrality treaty.

Were ships restricted previously? Yup. Due to drought that forced rerouting, not Chinese influence or ports near the canal.

Read up. Get back to me when you're ready ,
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Lmk when you connect the dots. Originally Posted by HDGristle
This isn't fair. GM is right. You're a fucking bot. You just spit out 4 links to Panama Canal toll schedules in 3 minutes. Way too fast. You can "connect the dots" in a milli-second. How are we mere mortals supposed to compete?

Who's your master? You know, the head spider bot who programs you?
Are some supporting China involved in Panama over America, why? Why is that a positive.
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Are some supporting China involved in Panama over America, why? Why is that a positive. Originally Posted by Chase7
Not in thia thread. Panama is bound to remain neutral.

U.S. has some rights, but not to take the canal as Trump has suggested.