Moscow and Putin truly control Trump and Vance.

Trump and Vance are absolutely not about shit. It’s a sad day for the US. You Trumpists sadly can’t even see it.

It's clear putin owns trumpf

JD Vance is an idiot and Trump is Putin’s bitch.

They were upset that Zelensky didn’t wear a suit. And Trump felt sorry for Putin being accused of trying to help Trump on 2016 and 2020. Poor Putin.

LOL, you guys are so clueless.



Zelensky is an idiot.

LOL, you guys are so clueless.



Zelensky is an idiot. Originally Posted by farmstud60

Zelensky is smarter, braver and more of a leader than 45 and 47 could ever be, by orders of magnitude. JD wanna be is just a latent cock slurper.

LOL, you guys are so clueless.



Zelensky is an idiot. Originally Posted by farmstud60

Uh huh. You know about as much about this as you do economics. Less than zero. Zelensky is an actual leader. He has led his people through three years of fighting a superpower and has held on to 80% or so of their country while Russia has had to buy arms from Iran and have North Korean soldiers bolster them.

Zelensky is smarter, braver and more of a leader than 45 and 47 could ever be, by orders of magnitude. JD wanna be is just a latent cock slurper. Originally Posted by 69in2it69

... You liberal lads are making us laugh...

... Trump and Vance (and the American people) are correct...
No more US money for Zelenskyy.

Time to end them long, drawn out conflict.

##### Salty

That won’t end it. It’ll likely escalate. Europe may feel no option but to intervene with troops.

Trump and Vance were wrong. Maybe Trump should be on the $3 bill after he dies. The best he can do is keep bringing up Biden. I guess we'll hear that for 4 years.

Zelensky is smarter, braver and more of a leader than 45 and 47 could ever be, by orders of magnitude. JD wanna be is just a latent cock slurper. Originally Posted by 69in2it69

Jailing reporters, stopping free practice of religion, bombing his own people. That's all been done by ZELENSKY. He also declared martial law and suspended elections. You people said anybody doing that was a dictator and tyrant. Now he'll have to sign a truce since the American money spigot just got shut off. No more lining his pockets at our expense.

That won’t end it. It’ll likely escalate. Europe may feel no option but to intervene with troops.

Trump and Vance were wrong. Maybe Trump should be on the $3 bill after he dies. The best he can do is keep bringing up Biden. I guess we'll hear that for 4 years. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

... Nope... Europe will back whatever decision that
President Trump and America makes.

... Zelenskyy is the dummy here... And Ukraine would
be much better off with a different leader calling out
the shots for them... Time for Ukraine elections.

#### Salty

That was an absolutely bizarre exchange in the oval office. J.D. Vance never should have opened his fat mouth. I thought we were on the cusp of a cease fire. Trump should have pushed harder, with Zelensky and Putin, to try to make that happen, instead of just giving up.

Unfortunately Blackman may be right. I hope not.

That won’t end it. It’ll likely escalate. Europe may feel no option but to intervene with troops. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

... Nope... Europe will back whatever decision that
President Trump and America makes.

... Zelenskyy is the dummy here... And Ukraine would
be much better off with a different leader calling out
the shots for them... Time for Ukraine elections.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

We shall see. We’re likely going see a militarized Europe. Something we’ve tried to avoid for nearly a century. Ukraine is fighting for its survival and Europe will see no advantage to it coming under Russia’s sphere of influence.

What you're saying is nonsensical.

That was an absolutely bizarre exchange in the oval office. J.D. Vance never should have opened his fat mouth. I thought we were on the cusp of a cease fire. Trump should have pushed harder, with Zelensky and Putin, to try to make that happen, instead of just giving up.

Unfortunately Blackman may be right. I hope not. Originally Posted by Tiny

Why doesn’t Trump just tell Putin to send his troops home and end the war? Why support the Russian invasion? Explain why you feel that the result should be Russia withdrawing?

Russian troops could leave and the war would end immediately.

We shall see. We’re likely going see a militarized Europe. Something we’ve tried to avoid for nearly a century. Ukraine is fighting for its survival and Europe will see no advantage to it coming under Russia’s sphere of influence.

What you're saying is nonsensical. Originally Posted by 1blackman1

I'm sure that talks have already been in progress. That'll be 100MM of income the US won't see when they stop buying American arms. They'll gear up to fend for themselves and they should. There has already been an open call for a new leader of the free world. But I guess that would give the dumpster more time to golf.


At this point, I feel the US has lost so much respect that one errant drone or missile hitting Poland and Article 5 comes out. Then draft dodger and JD wanna be don't join and the rest of NATO steps up to handle Putin.


That leaves America with no respect, massive lost income, a recession (at best) and the joke of the world. Hell, maybe Canada and Mexico will decide to take back some of their land.

I agree with our Liberal friends on this one.

We need to keep arming Ukraine so that more young men can die. It’s good for our arms business. Arms dealers always make huge profits in Proxy Wars.

Since the war will continue to be a stalemate, that means future arms sales to help boost the profits for years to come.

Of course, there is a down side. All of those dead and maimed young men in their prime. But hey. It ain’t our kids getting killed, so why worry about it.

We can only hope that President Trump caves in and adopts the Lefts policy of “any War is a good War” as long as we can keep in going, and keep making money.