I don't remember it being this slow......

so ive actually lived here and seen clients here before and it was definitely didnt have this issue before(and i didnt have yhis issue in kcmo either)....has it changed that much? Am i doing something wrong?

I'll be honest IMHO that the market is pricing itself out. Guys I know that have the money are just not going to pay the sky rocketing prices.
You aren't doing anything wrong. The market as a whole is the problem. Lots of guys now believe they're being gouged.

Definitely a cost issue. I totally get the risk of this profession but it's just not possible for most people to afford what is turning into normal rates. Even AMPs are getting a bit outrageous.

This is definitely true.. AMP prices used to be the budget option when you just needed a little somethin somethin to get you by but now they charge as much as the non AMPs.
I also feel like there's alot more scamming going on nowadays than previous.. Like before if you saw someone's ad you were pretty sure they were a real person the question was if the pics were from sometime recent or if they were 20 years old. Now you are wondering if they were a real person at all or if it was some bot sending you messages from another country just trying to get you to either A give them something they can blackmail you with or B get you to cash app them some money for a fake appointment..

At the end of it I feel like the market still probably has as many people as it ever did but the tools we had to get into reliable communication with each other has taken a nosedive and we are all just trying to make due. I feel like the tools are probably out there just A) everyone getting into the hobby doesn't know whether they trust it and B) everyone that's been in the hobby remembers a few years ago and is trying to stay lowkey.. In the old days the Studios were a good way to learn the ways.. now the only studios out there are the amps and there's a major communication barrier there.. lol

I'll be honest IMHO that the market is pricing itself out. Guys I know that have the money are just not going to pay the sky rocketing prices.
You aren't doing anything wrong. The market as a whole is the problem. Lots of guys now believe they're being gouged. Originally Posted by Cherokeechief

This is very true. Just because a guy can afford it doesn't mean he will. Nobody wants to feel like they aren't getting a fair deal. Some women, im not saying you, are simply out pricing themselves out of the market.

The rates have gone up, and for some, the service has become get-in in get-out. I have cut back to rarely seeing anyone. I'm grandfathered by a few and still see them some but nothing like 3-5 years ago. Rates of 400+ are just out of my reasoning for the playground. I am certainly not saying they aren't worth what they are asking. More power to you if that is working for you. I saw a beauty for 500, but when I got there, she informed me of her "no" list. It was pretty much get it hard yourself, cover it, and get it over with.

Trying to make a weeks income in 2 hours kind of hurts the guy that works 40 for not much more. They have to remember the client has to pay rent and eat too. It really makes the hand worth a lot more for some.
It all boils down to what the market will bare and it can't stand much more.
Guys are looking for alternatives and doing lots of shopping.
IMHO

But 450 roses an hour is not outpriced. I have no problem staying busy at that donation

But 450 roses an hour is not outpriced. Originally Posted by MJewel

Maybe after that sentence you should say, "in my opinion" because that's what it is.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you. I'm simply saying everybody may not feel that way. Depending on looks, personality, menu, a guys income. There's alot of factors that contribute to what each person considers reasonable.

Maybe after that sentence you should say, "in my opinion" because that's what it is.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you. I'm simply saying everybody may not feel that way. Depending on looks, personality, menu, a guys income. There's alot of factors that contribute to what each person considers reasonable. Originally Posted by 405Newguy

That is a door that swings both ways. 450+ being too much is also a matter of opinion. All of this is a matter of opinion tbh, even this statement 😉

This may cone as a bit of a shock to some of you but the ladies are actual human beings living in the same world as the gentlemen🤯 The same human needs, economic challenges, and cost of living perils that the gentlemen experience, the ladies do as well. The ladies are experiencing the same rise in costs that you are. As we see things like rent, food, and gas rise, so are things like hotels, flights, condoms, hygiene products, and advertising. There are ladies out there to fit every physical and service preference and also every budget. The burden of finding that match falls on you, the client, not the provider to meet you at that preference. Not even Priceline lets you name your own price anymore.

Cost aside, I personally have observed some other factors. We are living in the post-Covid OF Plague. We’re being inundated with ‘content creators’ (half hoes) taking up space intended for us actual FS Providers. IIt pains me to see a rise in scammers, AI, and Bots infiltrating this Thing of Ours.i take pride in my amazing track record as an honest and dedicated service provider so having to be painted with the same brush is infuriating.

I think many potential clients a bit of fatigue when going to look for providers. Too, sexual satisfaction is so accessible now. A man used to have to sneak in a little porn real quick while he was home alone or go see a provider to get off. He can open a variety of apps and see the most extreme hardcore porn and hottest ladies in seconds now.. for free.

To the OP: I personally haven’t experienced a huge decline in inquiries or bookings and I do not take that for granted. My biggest takeaway in this business has been that it is either Feast or Famine and you cannot get lazy, complacent, or provide mediocre service. You will get back what you put in. Provide the best service you can, when money is good, save some for days when it’s not, and put effort into your buisness. Shake shit up!!! Do a diagnostic on your buisness approach . Do you need better advertising? Pics? How visible are you? Do you need more/better sites, etc? What’s your footprint online? What’s your repeat/regulars ROF?

Our job begins well before the gentleman steps into our door, even before he contacts us.

I hope things pick up for you. OKC is my absolute favorite city to visit in.

Much love to everyone 🩷

That is a door that swings both ways. 450+ being too much is also a matter of opinion. All of this is a matter of opinion tbh, even this statement 😉

This may cone as a bit of a shock to some of you but the ladies are actual human beings living in the same world as the gentlemen🤯 The same human needs, economic challenges, and cost of living perils that the gentlemen experience, the ladies do as well. The ladies are experiencing the same rise in costs that you are. As we see things like rent, food, and gas rise, so are things like hotels, flights, condoms, hygiene products, and advertising. There are ladies out there to fit every physical and service preference and also every budget. The burden of finding that match falls on you, the client, not the provider to meet you at that preference. Not even Priceline lets you name your own price anymore.

Cost aside, I personally have observed some other factors. We are living in the post-Covid OF Plague. We’re being inundated with ‘content creators’ (half hoes) taking up space intended for us actual FS Providers. IIt pains me to see a rise in scammers, AI, and Bots infiltrating this Thing of Ours.i take pride in my amazing track record as an honest and dedicated service provider so having to be painted with the same brush is infuriating.

I think many potential clients a bit of fatigue when going to look for providers. Too, sexual satisfaction is so accessible now. A man used to have to sneak in a little porn real quick while he was home alone or go see a provider to get off. He can open a variety of apps and see the most extreme hardcore porn and hottest ladies in seconds now.. for free.

To the OP: I personally haven’t experienced a huge decline in inquiries or bookings and I do not take that for granted. My biggest takeaway in this business has been that it is either Feast or Famine and you cannot get lazy, complacent, or provide mediocre service. You will get back what you put in. Provide the best service you can, when money is good, save some for days when it’s not, and put effort into your buisness. Shake shit up!!! Do a diagnostic on your buisness approach . Do you need better advertising? Pics? How visible are you? Do you need more/better sites, etc? What’s your footprint online? What’s your repeat/regulars ROF?

Our job begins well before the gentleman steps into our door, even before he contacts us.

I hope things pick up for you. OKC is my absolute favorite city to visit in.

Much love to everyone 🩷 Originally Posted by Exotic Yazmin DDD

Spot on Yazmin, well said.

On a side note…I think you should push the throttles up and visit OKC soon before I jet out east.

I’d love to show you how much I agree with you

That is a door that swings both ways. 450+ being too much is also a matter of opinion. All of this is a matter of opinion tbh, even this statement 😉

This may cone as a bit of a shock to some of you but the ladies are actual human beings living in the same world as the gentlemen🤯 The same human needs, economic challenges, and cost of living perils that the gentlemen experience, the ladies do as well. The ladies are experiencing the same rise in costs that you are. As we see things like rent, food, and gas rise, so are things like hotels, flights, condoms, hygiene products, and advertising. There are ladies out there to fit every physical and service preference and also every budget. The burden of finding that match falls on you, the client, not the provider to meet you at that preference. Not even Priceline lets you name your own price anymore.

Cost aside, I personally have observed some other factors. We are living in the post-Covid OF Plague. We’re being inundated with ‘content creators’ (half hoes) taking up space intended for us actual FS Providers. IIt pains me to see a rise in scammers, AI, and Bots infiltrating this Thing of Ours.i take pride in my amazing track record as an honest and dedicated service provider so having to be painted with the same brush is infuriating.

I think many potential clients a bit of fatigue when going to look for providers. Too, sexual satisfaction is so accessible now. A man used to have to sneak in a little porn real quick while he was home alone or go see a provider to get off. He can open a variety of apps and see the most extreme hardcore porn and hottest ladies in seconds now.. for free.

To the OP: I personally haven’t experienced a huge decline in inquiries or bookings and I do not take that for granted. My biggest takeaway in this business has been that it is either Feast or Famine and you cannot get lazy, complacent, or provide mediocre service. You will get back what you put in. Provide the best service you can, when money is good, save some for days when it’s not, and put effort into your buisness. Shake shit up!!! Do a diagnostic on your buisness approach . Do you need better advertising? Pics? How visible are you? Do you need more/better sites, etc? What’s your footprint online? What’s your repeat/regulars ROF?

Our job begins well before the gentleman steps into our door, even before he contacts us.

I hope things pick up for you. OKC is my absolute favorite city to visit in.

Much love to everyone 🩷 Originally Posted by Exotic Yazmin DDD

Spot on Yazmin, well said.

On a side note…I think you should push the throttles up and visit OKC soon before I jet out east.

I’d love to show you how much I agree with you

For me it's the price but everyone has their own price and budget on spending. Some guys can afford higher rates and some like to stay in the lower

For me it's the price but everyone has their own price and budget on spending. Some guys can afford higher rates and some like to stay in the lower Originally Posted by Asianfab

Also a good point Asianfab…succinct and direct.

At the end of the day, price points are what they are…everyone will have their range.

Mutual respect on both sides of the isle for both need and want.

Let’s all just sip a margarita, take our pants off…and enjoy life!

For me it's the price but everyone has their own price and budget on spending. Some guys can afford higher rates and some like to stay in the lower Originally Posted by Asianfab

Also a good point Asianfab…succinct and direct.

At the end of the day, price points are what they are…everyone will have their range.

Mutual respect on both sides of the isle for both need and want.

Let’s all just sip a margarita, take our pants off…and enjoy life!