America: #1 globally in mass shootings

Please fellas. It's our God given right to keep and bear arms... The Founding fucking FaThers intended for us to those concealed weapons and semi automatic killing machines to murder children and other innocents each other in the streets. That must be what they meant when they included "provide domestic tranquility" into the preamble to their fucking constitution.

Lock and load assholes. You and your ilk have made America the most dangerous country in the world.

Keep on killing, boys. This is on you as much as it is on the retard of the week who hoses down a church or a school or a theater.

Meanwhile, you can take your God given guns and stick them up your murderous asses. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You are by far the dumbest mother fucker here.

Keep drinking the kool aid. Does that offend you? I sure in the fuck hope so.

You are by far the dumbest mother fucker here.

Keep drinking the kool aid. Does that offend you? I sure in the fuck hope so. Originally Posted by Budman

I used to have a little respect for you, but you're not offering anything. You just call people stupid motherfuckers and offer no real alternative. What exactly would you do? Or are you ok with the way things are?

One could just as easily say that it's you who are drinking the kool-aid. Does that offend YOU?

He laid out an impassioned response and told you how he feels about what is happening in this country and your only response is to call him a stupid motherfucker. Sad.

PS - Your anger is showing through again. Get hold of it.

When they step over the line and put my life and property at risk.



If you don't believe in it then why post the link? Originally Posted by gfejunkie

Have you never contemplated something simply for its own sake? I thought it was an interesting take and addressed the issue that the status quo is not working.

You didn't answer the question. At what point does my right to the pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness come up against your right to unlimited firearms? At some point we are going to realize that simply keeping the law as is just so we can hold up the second amendment as something to be proud of, is going to cost us more lives than we ever thought. Was it worth it? Who knows.

Again, I do not believe that innocent Americans should continue to die because you need your AK.

This is happening on a weekly basis.

And that's not counting those killed by paranoid and overzealous cops.

You call me a stupid motherfucker? Are you smart enough to carry your pistola into a movie theater in case some stupid motherfucker opens fire? Are you smart enough to realize that dozens of innocents are being slaughtered for your right to play cowboy?

This isn't a disagreement. It's a fucking IQ test. And you can't shoot your way out of it.

More Americans have died from gunfire since 1968 than ALL U.S. wars combined!

that's a sobering fact to those with sense enough to process mentally.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...-Wars-Combined#

I used to have a little respect for you, but you're not offering anything. You just call people stupid motherfuckers and offer no real alternative. What exactly would you do? Or are you ok with the way things are?

One could just as easily say that it's you who are drinking the kool-aid. Does that offend YOU?

He laid out an impassioned response and told you how he feels about what is happening in this country and your only response is to call him a stupid motherfucker. Sad.

PS - Your anger is showing through again. Get hold of it. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Again, I do not believe that innocent Americans should continue to die because you need your AK.

This is happening on a weekly basis.

And that's not counting those killed by paranoid and overzealous cops.

You call me a stupid motherfucker? Are you smart enough to carry your pistola into a movie theater in case some stupid motherfucker opens fire? Are you smart enough to realize that dozens of innocents are being slaughtered for your right to play cowboy?

This isn't a disagreement. It's a fucking IQ test. And you can't shoot your way out of it. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Bullshit. He makes a completely asinine statement that the US is the most dangerous country in the world. It's not even close and you defend him by saying he was offering an impassioned response. If you are going to make completely nonfactual statements then I am going to call you a stupid mother fucker.

As far as the kool aid statement goes he knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Your respect for me amounts to nothing. I don't give a shit one way or the other. You started this thread with an article that was disingenuous with the info presented. I have merely pointed out the facts.

I'll reply more later. I have a golf game to get to.

You didn't answer the question. At what point does my right to the pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness come up against your right to unlimited firearms? Originally Posted by WombRaider

I did...

When they step over the line and put my life and property at risk. Originally Posted by gfejunkie

Not my problem if you have a comprehension problem.

There are castle doctrine laws on my side too.

More Americans have died from gunfire since 1968 than ALL U.S. wars combined!

that's a sobering fact to those with sense enough to process mentally.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...-Wars-Combined# Originally Posted by southtown4488

Don't you understand? We got to keep that 2nd amendment or we won't know what to do with ourselves. It is wound so tightly into some people's version of this country that you can't tell where it begins and they end. They are ruled by fear. It's all tied together. They're likely to be religious as well.

They are unable to deal with the fear. Fear of the random nature of the universe. They're always worried about being attacked. Fear of the random leads them to accept less liberty. They are ruled by a skydaddy who will take them to a place with streets of gold when they die, so their value of life is different. They don't care about the environment, this is all going to be over in their eyes. They don't care about anything because they're going to heaven when it's all over. Even though it will never be over and when it is, there's no heaven waiting for them, just dirt and worms. It's a mental breakdown. They are mentally unstable people, generally. They believe in something that isn't there.

Great defense Budman.

You offer no facts, just vitriol and more personal attacks. And, as is your way, you insist on making it personal.

Do you deny the OP? Do you deny that more people have died from gunfire since 1968 than all US wars combined?

Drink up, asshole. This one's for you.

Bullshit. He makes a completely asinine statement that the US is the most dangerous country in the world. It's not even close and you defend him by saying he was offering an impassioned response. If you are going to make completely nonfactual statements then I am going to call you a stupid mother fucker.

As far as the kool aid statement goes he knows exactly what I'm talking about.

Your respect for me amounts to nothing. I don't give a shit one way or the other. You started this thread with an article that was disingenuous with the info presented. I have merely pointed out the facts.

I'll reply more later. I have a golf game to get to. Originally Posted by Budman

You have pointed out nothing. You have no facts on your side. Where have you cited ONE thing? We are the most dangerous civilized country in the world. You have made nothing but nonfactual statements, so by your own account, you are a stupid motherfucker. Good day. Go hit a little ball with a bunch of other dudes, queen.

Great defense Budman.

You offer no facts, just vitriol and more personal attacks. And, as is your way, you insist on making it personal.

Do you deny the OP? Do you deny that more people have died from gunfire since 1968 than all US wars combined?

Drink up, asshole. This one's for you. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Like the fact that the US is the most dangerous country in the world? Oh wait, that is a completely made up statement. I guess in your pea brain facts are whatever you decide fits your agenda. Go back to the kool aid stand and your hall monitor job.

This came up in class yesterday. It is not exactly "rights" that we are missing but a corrosion of our life style. 30 years ago I could walk into an airport with an overnight bag. Walk up to the counter and ask for the next flight to anywhere. Pay for the ticket with cash and get on the plane. No TSA, no search, no profiling, no problem...

20 years ago I could go to the same airport and ask for the same thing. They may want to check my carry on, they may ask if I have a major credit card, they would ask if I had ID with my photo on it, they would NOT have me take my shoes off, they would not have me put everything in a tray to be X-rayed, and I could get on the flight.

Today, I have to announce ahead of time, I pretty much have to pay by credit card to avoid stares, they will ask me about luggage and where is it, I will wait for an hour or more, I will have to take off my shoes, I will be pulled over to the side for further checks, I will have to be scanned, and I may spend more time getting on the plane than it takes me to get to where I'm going.

Just one example of the degrading of a certain lifestyle that we used to enjoy. We still have the "right" but it is more difficult to carry it out. Same thing about gun ownership. 50 years ago you'd walk into Sears and buy a rifle with cash. You'd walk out of the store within 10 minutes. Then they added paperwork, lots of paperwork under penalty of law. Then they added the background check and the waiting period. Then they added what kind of guns you could buy and when (two purchases in less than a month gets you an FBI filed started on you). Then they came along and said that this gun was not available (the assault rifle ban) and this gun could not come into the country though it was made in this country (World War II weapons). Later they more scared and said that too many bullets was bad for an honest citizen (magazine capacity). All along the way may cities were saying that you could buy a pistol but just not in their town.

We have won back many gun rights but they hang by a legislative thread and can be revoked by one more mass shooting that catches the public's imagination though it has nothing to do with current law.
Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Your first example is certainly true but I would find it hard to believe that anyone, yourself included, would argue with this "degradation" which is in place to try to ensure our safety from the lunatics running around. No, I don't like the rules in place but I accept them as necessary evils.

Same for your rants on guns. Whenever there is a mass killing, people on the right keep saying "Don't take our guns. Keep the guns out of the hands of those with mental problems and are more prone to such acts." Okay. So how is this done? One way is to make it more difficult for such people to purchase a gun. Yes, it makes it more difficult on those people who would certainly pass any background check. As with the airport restrictions, I would not mind at all the restrictions placed on me when purchasing a handgun when I understand that it is for my protection. Assault weapon ban? Does the average citizen have a need for an AK-47 or an M-16 to protect themselves? I'm sure you have enough firepower in your home to stop a small army. Without an assault weapon.

Like the fact that the US is the most dangerous country in the world? Oh wait, that is a completely made up statement. I guess in your pea brain facts are whatever you decide fits your agenda. Go back to the kool aid stand and your hall monitor job. Originally Posted by Budman

In your rush to judgement, you have gotten the title wrong. We are the leader in mass shootings globally. You're getting hung up on semantics and not addressing the real issues here. Why do you do that? You have nothing to say about the issues? You're ok with the way things are? What is it?

Your first example is certainly true but I would find it hard to believe that anyone, yourself included, would argue with this "degradation" which is in place to try to ensure our safety from the lunatics running around. No, I don't like the rules in place but I accept them as necessary evils.

Same for your rants on guns. Whenever there is a mass killing, people on the right keep saying "Don't take our guns. Keep the guns out of the hands of those with mental problems and are more prone to such acts." Okay. So how is this done? One way is to make it more difficult for such people to purchase a gun. Yes, it makes it more difficult on those people who would certainly pass any background check. As with the airport restrictions, I would not mind at all the restrictions placed on me when purchasing a handgun when I understand that it is for my protection. Assault weapon ban? Does the average citizen have a need for an AK-47 or an M-16 to protect themselves? I'm sure you have enough firepower in your home to stop a small army. Without an assault weapon. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You have the right to keep and bear arms. No one said it has to be easy to obtain them. That isn't part of the deal.

Don't you understand? We got to keep that 2nd amendment or we won't know what to do with ourselves. It is wound so tightly into some people's version of this country that you can't tell where it begins and they end. They are ruled by fear. It's all tied together. They're likely to be religious as well.

They are unable to deal with the fear. Fear of the random nature of the universe. They're always worried about being attacked. Fear of the random leads them to accept less liberty. They are ruled by a skydaddy who will take them to a place with streets of gold when they die, so their value of life is different. They don't care about the environment, this is all going to be over in their eyes. They don't care about anything because they're going to heaven when it's all over. Even though it will never be over and when it is, there's no heaven waiting for them, just dirt and worms. It's a mental breakdown. They are mentally unstable people, generally. They believe in something that isn't there. Originally Posted by WombRaider

You're the jackass here spouting your irrational fears, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. You're the pathetic little crybaby that's afraid that some law abiding citizen is going to put a hole in your stupid, useless ass, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

You have the right to keep and bear arms. No one said it has to be easy to obtain them. That isn't part of the deal. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Your dumb-ass better read District of Columbia v. Heller again, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

Have you never contemplated something simply for its own sake? I thought it was an interesting take and addressed the issue that the status quo is not working.

You didn't answer the question. At what point does my right to the pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness come up against your right to unlimited firearms? At some point we are going to realize that simply keeping the law as is just so we can hold up the second amendment as something to be proud of, is going to cost us more lives than we ever thought. Was it worth it? Who knows. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Cite the instance where anyone of the some 80 million law abiding gun owners in this country ever infringed on your rights merely because they owned a gun, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/...useronline.pdf