The truth (Relax2013)

It wasn't that far at the time. Times change.

This is an interesting thread, not only because of the revelations that the OP shares, but because of the responses that follow as well. There are several important points or questions that seemed to be missed or ignored in the discussion, so I humbly submit my analysis for your consideration.

1) It doesn't really matter if the OP is really Kendra or not. The crimes she lists have been corroborated by multiple independent, credible witnesses, and, as someone already noted, we can add arson to the list. She is certainly culpable, but since she is no longer part of Relax, the real focus should be on the remaining owner.

2) Some of the posters here are doing everything they can to deflect attention away from the owner of Relax. I don't know if it's Kendra's ex-husband using one of his multiple handles or if it's one of his minions, but any safety-conscious hobbyist should take what they read with a grain of salt. I would ignore any positive review of Relax that has been posted in the last couple weeks unless I personally have met the hobbyist posting it.

3) I think most everyone here is missing the big picture. It is obvious that the guys who decide to go to Relax ARE at risk of exposure from the staff, the management, any LE group that might raid them, any competitor that they have hurt, etc. The damage that has been done goes way beyond that, though. The police know all about the studios, the AMPs, the agencies, the independents - the reason they leave it alone is that they don't care. Drugs or underage trafficking is about all they go after as long as no one makes a fuss. You start committing felony arson and that all changes. If some idiot like the owner of Relax calls attention to the hobby world, they won't just go after him; they will go after any studio that they can to make an example. Especially if they are being nagged by the "moral do-gooders". The do-gooders are convinced that every provider is an addicted victim being abused by a violent pimp. What better way to bolster their narrative than strong arm people and burn them out? The local Bible-belt media would just love to run with something like this in an election year. I am sure that there are those hobbyists who sitting there thinking "I will never go to a studio like that, so none of this affects me". Not if you care about the price you pay! Plenty of hobbyists both go to studios and see independents. Wiping out a half a dozen studio competitors and outing their workers just means there are less providers to meet the needs of hobbyists in the area. Simple economics predicts that the reduced number of providers can charge more for their services. Monopolies always increase the cost of the monopolized commodity - the hobby world is no exception. And I suspect many hobbyists don't realize how many HDH actually started out in a studio somewhere. Once the GPS kicks in, they won't admit it, but it's true. Having a safe, thriving, competitive studio ecosystem is healthy for all of the hobby culture.

4) I know that the kind of "mafioso" management style we are seeing here is common in other parts of the country, but we have been lucky that it's not common here in Texas. I really hate for that to change. I am sure that there are dozens of pimp and thug wannabes who are watching the drama and wondering if this guy will get away with it. I guess I am curious as well - can a guy come into Dallas and bareback assfuck every hobbyist and provider in town and no one is going to do anything? I am curious about the outing policy of this website as well. I know that individual handles have been banned in the past for outing people. How is that applied if it's a business that has done the outing? Does the business get banned? I really don't see the previous owners of Eccie ignoring the kind of thuggery that Relax is into; how does the current owner feels about it? It's seems like something could be done - at least make this thread a permanent sticky at the top of Coed Discussions and at the top of Studio Reviews so people could make up their mind.

Wow.. If this is true, you guys OUTED a lot of people and you're a danger to this community.

I'd think permanent Bans should be in order for you. Originally Posted by Von Spieler

Well of course it is true and then some and you are a mod, so.................

Trouble is, you will never be able to track down and ban all the current and active multiple handles Relax has. I could tell you a couple of them:

Obviously Relax2013

largontx is the owner's main handle with the PA

and there are few more.

I guess internet trolls like davefree can procreate so now we have the plumber? Sure does sound like the same whiny condescending dumba$$...

Lol. You just have to wonder how many handles david really has.

This one is like a sleeper cell...been in hiding for years.

Anyone with a sense of history about this place (meaning Eccie) will find it funny that the Plumber and David stand accused of being one and the same. It would be the height of irony if that were indeed the case.

Even tho most people, even the non Relax WKs, told me I was FOS in multiple threads about this, I provided lots of intel on what Relax did and what they were doing way prior to Kendra coming out with the posting of this thread, while many others who also knew it was true, did not say anything. Of course, Kendra blatantly denied all that she admitted in the original post while she worked there and in so doing, opened a thread to donate money to Eccie to get me banned and told lies about me on the Relax website. Because of this thread, the number of PMs I have received from former studio girls that have had to move on and if they wanted to continue in the business of providing, they had to do it virtually UTR, and then some ex-Relax girls that Relax allowed to continue doing business as an indy, before they were ruined and/or attempted to ruin them with their notifications to family members/friends is astronomical.

The Relax WK trolls have blamed me for the problems at Relax, but that is because they do not know any better nor do they have to have facts before they form an opinion and state those opinions as facts. At least I provide intel and do reviews of providers at least once a month continuously. The Relax WKs have not done reviews of any provider in months, yet are logging in and posting on this site multiple times a day. They do not provide any intel of hobby related info, just drama, hijacking threads to do name calling to those who say anything remotely negative about Relax.

Speaking of which, I wonder why these guys keep getting to go off topic and hijack threads in the Coed section just to say negative things about a poster in it and that is it? Just check their posting history. It is amazing that the Relax WKs try their utmost to portray me as the bad guy after all of the outing Relax and the minions did to other hobbyists, girls that worked there/had PIs follow them and the outing of other similar businesses they called the cops on, even setting fire to one, not to mention the personal lives they ruined due to jealousy and/or trying to monopolize the studio market.

Anyone with a sense of history about this place (meaning Eccie) will find it funny that the Plumber and David stand accused of being one and the same. It would be the height of irony if that were indeed the case. Originally Posted by TinMan

Of course, if you have basically the same opinion on the same topic, then obviously, you are the same person with multiple handles, right? I wonder why the Relax minions have not been accused of being the same person? They all think alike per their posts, and when the subject of relax is brought up, there they are ready to defend the honor of the business, if it has any left after this revelation. They did not start posting (grail and dallasfan) until page 5 of this thread, and that was hikjacking this thread to not only try to drag my name in the mud, but several others as well, because the member posted something negative about Relax, but those two did not say anything about what Kendra revealed, as they probably also knew all about it already. I would not be surprised if they were in on it. The question is, where were they after this thread was started that they had to wait so long before posting on it?

have the MODS verified if the OP is telling the truth? If so , there needs to be a lifetime ban. I have been 2 relax twice and I would hate to know that I been video taped.

12-21-2015 join date. You seem like you would breeze right through relax security requirements. You've been busy today sir.

12-21-2015 join date. You seem like you would breeze right through relax security requirements. You've been busy today sir. Originally Posted by dallasfan

I think he referenced being here under a previous handle.

12-21-2015 join date. You seem like you would breeze right through relax security requirements. You've been busy today sir. Originally Posted by dallasfan

What an idiot- everyone has a join date moron. For what is worth- I been hobbying for nearly 20 years- well known on ASPD- my previous ECCIE account was compromised because my wife nearly discovered the connection- so I disable that account earlier in the year for my personal protection. I have been to relax couple times as mentioned and know a few of the regular ladies and the ones that left. FYI, I just contacted one of the ladies who left and she confirmed that shady activities were taking place- I am not sure or doubt if Relax had anything to do with my old account being compromised, but you never know- why are you defending Relax?

have the MODS verified if the OP is telling the truth? If so , there needs to be a lifetime ban. I have been 2 relax twice and I would hate to know that I been video taped. Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

I do not think the mods enforce off the board issues with penalties on the board, they are not the hobby police, UNLESS it is outing of another member off site, but that has to be either confirmed by a third party or they have to admit to it, which Relax will not and they can easily say that Kendra is a scorned female out for revenge, but as they say, Hell hath no fury. Another thing is perceived threats using the open forum or PM system of Eccie, which can also be verified by the mods. An actual threat carried out, which Kendra points out that Relax did several of, and even tho we all know Relax is responsible for the fire at Studio A, the shutting down of other studio businesses and the care package sent to families of the girls that left Relax, unless Relax admits it, everything is he said/she said.

Oh and as far as dallasfan goes, he talks out his ass and says things he has no idea about and says them as fact, all a part of I think he might be brainwashed as he is one of the Relax shit eaters and piss drinkers. Well, he probably knows all about the crimes committed, outings and other horrible things that Relax did to hobbyists and providers, as he has not ever once in his many posts in this thread, called Kendra a liar for the accusations she has proclaimed, because he knows it is the truth.

Can we please go back to the good old Studio1 days? Please.........ahhhh now that was a fun little place.

The only facts I know are they ones that have been verified and they all point to the fact that you are shady David. These are things you have admitted to after they were discovered.

You have been caught with multiple handles...fact.

You have been caught trying to sneak into relax after you were banned...fact.

You are also chatty and whinny...fact.

And yes a join date is the date you joined...who would have figured.