The hell with this

We all know who you are referencing and we all know it wasn't me. However, in the spirit of "I'll post when I damn well please", I responded to your concerns about who can and cannot post to you.

I can see another change is in order-- I'll have to work on that later this evening.

Let's make it official right now then....

From here on in, whenever I ask for someone's opinion I am really asking for anyone's opinion other than you and also your stooge girl/official spokeswoman who very luckily for us all seems to be on a vacation.

Uh-oh, I just replied to a thread that was about Kitty. Guess that same girl that stalks Kitty 24/7 is gonna accuse me of bashing her when I replied to this thread. Originally Posted by SteveOTX

You can't pick & choose who you want to respond it doesn't work that way. You post I respond if you don't like it dont make threads

Let's make it official right now then....



Uh-oh, I just replied to a thread that was about Kitty. Guess that same girl that stalks Kitty 24/7 is gonna accuse me of bashing her when I replied to this thread ©. Originally Posted by SteveOTX

You use the clowns name.... You now owe me money, I consulted with her lawyer.

You use the clowns name.... You now owe me money, I consulted with her lawyer. Originally Posted by lookn4boobies

Steve has Kitty's permission to say whatever he wants to say. He is her friend. You best consult with the lawyer again and make sure you get the right lawyer this time. Not the imaginary one in your head. I get it you hear voices.

BTW, when you can walk in Kitty's stilettos then you can presume to call her a clown. I don't see anything clown like about a woman who has overcome the difficulties she has overcome or the constant harassment she has endured from asshat's like you. Didn't she call you a nut case or something like you claiming all kinds of stuff you made up being kindof weird? You still at it? Get some help man your delusions are pathetic.

Grace. Please pick a side of the fence and stick to it. Either you are Kitty's friend or you're not.

Dorky, mija are you sure you want to put your little 2 cents in this game? Kitty declined from being negative with you and even defended you in the end.

Grace. Please pick a side of the fence and stick to it. Either you are Kitty's friend or you're not.
. Originally Posted by tsjasmine

Grace doesn't need to pick a side of the fence.There are no absolutes here.....I like Kitty, but I think she's an emotional idiot who hangs out with the same idiots who bring her down on a regular basis. There's mostly a gray area in life. It's not as simple as black or white...I have nothing against Kitty. I have a problem with you fools trying to think you are helping her, and she obviously doesn't have enough sense to tell you clowns to leave it alone and let this thread die...

I doubt many people on here actually dislike Kitty. She seems like a nice lady who just makes really bad choices - especially the company she keeps.

Lucas in this business you're happy with the friends you can get who don't stab you in the back or use you for your money. Those friends are few and far between.

If those are your only qualifications for "friends", then I feel bad for you. I can tell the fence comment came direct from Kitty-- seeing as it matched a PM conversation we had before her banning... but just in case, I'll tell you like I told her.

I don't dislike Kitty-- however, because of things she is well aware of-- I will not associate with her either. There are certain things that are absolutes for me-- and she's crossed not one, not two, but three of them. Therefore, while I am more than happy to help her with things when she needs help with them and defend her against blatant lies (as I would any provider)-- she should never misconstrue that as "being on her side".

Lucas in this business you're happy with the friends you can get who don't stab you in the back or use you for your money. Those friends are few and far between. Originally Posted by tsjasmine

I would rather have KL and Grace Preston on my side than back stabbing fuckers that troll here constantly and stir shit up trying to get good ladies banned.

I would rather have KL and Grace Preston on my side than back stabbing fuckers that troll here constantly and stir shit up trying to get good ladies banned. Originally Posted by 200K

And that's just it. Kitty knows that while I will absolutely point out her screw ups-- if she needs help with something and I'm able to help-- I will. I have that level of balance with just about anyone in my life, including my closest female associates in the hobby. I don't sugarcoat shit-- its not my nature. I'm sorry she feels that is "fence sitting"-- but she knows why. Even my closest friends in the world know I will not defend them when they are in the wrong.

Steve has Kitty's permission to say whatever he wants to say. He is her friend. You best consult with the lawyer again and make sure you get the right lawyer this time. Not the imaginary one in your head. I get it you hear voices. Originally Posted by tsjasmine

That's right. And I have never said or done nothing negative to Kitty, but Grace continues to say that every single post I make is secretly being done to bash Kitty, even when Kitty's name is not even mentioned by me at all on the posts.

Grace. Please pick a side of the fence and stick to it. Either you are Kitty's friend or you're not. Originally Posted by tsjasmine

She already has picked a side. With what she says about Kitty, and constantly posting all those links to very old threads and negative comments, this proves what side Grace is on.

Look how she took the time to dig up 10 negative comments about Kitty to "point out" things that people were saying:

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=189

What kind of person has time to dig up all those links anyway?

I can tell the fence comment came direct from Kitty Originally Posted by GracePreston

Were you wearing the tin foil hat when you came to this realization? Or are you able to sense things now without having to wear the tin foil hat anymore?

And that's just it. Kitty knows that while I will absolutely point out her screw ups Originally Posted by GracePreston

Yeah, you sure like to go out of your way to do that, and many, many times too. I'm still trying to figure out what your agenda is with Kitty. You dont live anywhere near Texas anymore, so I dont see why you would want to run her out.

Perhaps it is jealousy since you are nowhere near as famous and successful as Kitty, nor will you ever be.

Kitty said she is mystified how she crossed you 3x Grace but she will be happy to continue to share her experience in new car loans, self-employment and dermatology with you. She said she will remember that you are not her friend from now on. Thanks for letting her know.

BTW. Those weren't my criterias for friendship but examples of how so-called friends often treat us. Like I said, friendships are few and far between and don't come easy so a friend that is understanding not judgemental and has my back through thick and thin is a friend I appreciate.

That's right. And I have never said or done nothing negative to Kitty, but Grace continues to say that every single post I make is secretly being done to bash Kitty, even when Kitty's name is not even mentioned by me at all on the posts.



She already has picked a side. With what she says about Kitty, and constantly posting all those links to very old threads and negative comments, this proves what side Grace is on.

Look how she took the time to dig up 10 negative comments about Kitty to "point out" things that people were saying:

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=189

What kind of person has time to dig up all those links anyway? Originally Posted by SteveOTX

Wow. She even quoted trolls. Nice. Thanks for pointing that out Steve. SMDH.

Grace jealousy is a sickness get well soon. Or get some sleep one of the two at least.

Kitty said she is mystified how she crossed you 3x Grace but she will be happy to continue to share her experience in new car loans, self-employment and dermatology with you. She said she will remember that you are not her friend from now on. Thanks for letting her know. Originally Posted by tsjasmine

Yeah, Kitty said she OWNS not leases a 2016, that's right 2016 Infiniti Q50. Meanwhile Grace is probably driving some 20 year old rust bucket with 285k miles, oxidation stains all over the roof and hood, A/C and heat barely working, and she has to get in the car through the passenger side cuz her driver's side door is broke and no longer opens.

Perhaps the car thing is what started Grace's jealousy, or maybe she is just angry because no one really knows or remembers who she is, we may never know.

Wow. She even quoted trolls. Nice. Thanks for pointing that out Steve. SMDH.

Grace jealousy is a sickness get well soon. Or get some sleep one of the two at least. Originally Posted by tsjasmine

True, she seems to go out of her way to dig up all these links and post quotes on Kitty quite a lot. But then she says she is just offering a "point of view" on the subject.....yeah right.

I did not say she personally crossed me 3 times. I said there are certain things that are absolutes for me, that would put another provider on my "do not closely associate" list.. and she has crossed three of those. She is fully aware of one of them, as we discussed it prior to her banning.

I asked her about her car loan when she got it because I used to work in the auto finance industry-- and I also know the hoops I had to jump through in order to buy my car, being self employed. It would seem, knowing what I know, that the requirements have seriously loosened up. I'll be testing that theory at some point in the coming months.

In regards to dermatology-- she mentioned fillers, I PM'd her about it because I could tell in one of her photo sets that she looked better than she had in years, but that the particular set wasn't hard core retouched. She mentioned what she had done. The message was more to compliment her on the pics and to comment on her post in regards to fillers. As I told her in the messages- I'm not yet at the point where I need fillers... good genetics and never smoking have helped me out bigtime on that one.

I told her when she first asked me that I could not consider her a friend. I made that crystal clear. However, when it comes to ladies in the hobby-- not being "friends" does not mean that I don't offer assistance or advice when needed. That goes for pretty much anyone.