12 today, or a 140% increase in one day.Lame. Did you really think you had a mathematical gotcha?
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03...ds-more-tests/
quit trying to call the bottom, i.e., the flattening. if the great masses would utilize social distancing for 2-3 weeks, this would be behind us.. not much to ask, yet so many feel so put out. bunch of Babies.. Originally Posted by Chung Tran
New York, India, Europe.. those are all Shit Hole areas, with Shit Hole leadership Originally Posted by Chung Tran
Chan wants to turn this country into another China! Go figure. Originally Posted by LexusLoverYeah, here's some more shit from one of those shithole countries,
Quote:This happens every year. People contract viruses of the Influenza, Corona and Rhinovirus and many other types that will cause symptoms and mild to severe illness. It's a fact of life. The only difference with this virus is it was exploited and toted as a dangerous and killer virus and it isn't. Thus the wearing of masks and surgical gloves in public and all the other redundant measures that have little impact. What people don't realize is viruses, Bacteria are in our homes ventilation systems and you would be surprised how most people hardly change the filter on time. There has been Pandemics in the past with many cases and fatalities but we've never seen this type of reaction from it. It's a Psychological Operation and as long as people fall for this crap the more they will occur.
Originally Posted by oeb11
i agree that an infection rate of 1% of the US population is not reasonable - more likely over 50% total infection rate based on the transmissibility of the virus.
Many of these cases are asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic - and that cohort decreases the case fatality rate significantly.
I think we are going about this wrong - our response to shut down all but "essential services" leaves people circulating to transmit the virus. The virus is already at least 2-3 levels ahead in the population. I think our efforts are to noavail - with delivery services, US Post Office, grocery stores, and many other businesses open and available to transmit the virus.
Politically i think we are hidebound in the thinking and any change will elicit screams of "murder" from the LSM.
Still - I think we should carefully quarantine those at risk of death/severe morbidity - the elderly, those with underlying diseases - and let the rst of the population go about their business as we do in cold and Influenza season.
This plan obviates the need for extensive testing in the population - it is limited only to those with severe disease requiring hospitalization for disagnosis.
As Trump made the point - the cure should not be worse than the disease.
And that is what we have - and the Fascist DPST's are ...."Dancing with delight"....
L-17: Well then by that standard we all have it. you either have symptoms of the disease and are sick or you have no symptoms of the disease and are spreading it without realizing it. Pretty much a doomsday scenario.
You are correct - and it is the same scenario as Influenza A - only the wuhan virus likely has a much lower case fatality rate. It is likely many times more people are asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic with Wuhan virus - and when transmissibility ends is unclear.
However - the risk of fatality is mainly to the elderly and those with underlying disease processes. Those can be self- quarantined and hopefully remain safe.
Even with the restrictions - there is plenty of human traffic in the world - more than enough to sprad the virus.
Yet We do not see mass fatalities - as your comment about doomsday scenario implies.
we are panicking without reasonable basis - we do not panic over the influenza a virus. This Wuhan virus is far overblown as a thrat to public health.
And the Fascist DPST's and LSM are in concert to keep the panic going and fruther the economic shutdown - and cause a true Grat Depression. China is already announcing the end of their restrictions in Wuhan/hubei. The virus will run its course - regardless of what we are doing now.
Time to re-assess and change direction - as Trump said - "The cure must not be worse than the disease" - he is well and truly correct!
I don't think that was the increase in one day - I think it took several. The numbers are too low to be significant anyway.Well, the update had 6 overnight deaths in Texas attributed to COVID-19.
Let's see tomorrow after noon - I think they update then. Originally Posted by friendly fred
Well, the update had 6 overnight deaths in Texas attributed to COVID-19.So what was the cause of death, was is Covid19 or some other ailment? The CDC and WHO like to play with numbers and statistics. I take their stats with a huge grain of salt.
Of course, 600-700 people die everyday in Texas, and I'm not sure if some of these deaths were older, unhealthy people, too.
Unfortunately, we need more data to say for sure.
Certainly don't have the all clear yet.... Originally Posted by friendly fred
Response to SecretE above:This article?
China's numbers are not to be trusted - they are about 'face" - not accurate repoprting - and have made that clear with their cover-up attempts from day !
You math is based on false assumptions. See John Ioanidis article - or look it up. Best calculations so far.
The overall mortality is very likely far less than 1% - and less than Influenza A.
There is a large cohort of asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic individuals infected with Wuhan virus - that number is not calculatable directly - but significantly lowers the case morbidity/'mortality rate.
From reasonable inferences on the population cohorts. Originally Posted by oeb11
At a time when everyone needs better information, from disease modelers and governments to people quarantined or just social distancing, we lack reliable evidence on how many people have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 or who continue to become infected. Better information is needed to guide decisions and actions of monumental significance and to monitor their impact.Which pretty much mirrors my disclaimer that we need more information.
The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed. We don’t know if we are failing to capture infections by a factor of three or 300. Three months after the outbreak emerged, most countries, including the U.S., lack the ability to test a large number of people and no countries have reliable data on the prevalence of the virus in a representative random sample of the general population.I also stated in another response nearly 2 weeks ago we don't fully know because we are behind on testing...
