I'll just put this right here...

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I'm sure you've seen it, but since you asked...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wefb0ESoVDo Originally Posted by Doove

McCain wasn't a hero. he never did anything heroic in Vietnam. surviving being captured doesn't make him or anyone else a hero


And if he thinks our military members and war dead are 'losers' and 'suckers', imagine what he thinks of you gullible saps. Originally Posted by Doove
just because the Atlantic, a far left publication claims so without any facts to back it up doesn't mean it happened. why won't any of these anonymous sources come forward? if the source was John Kelly as has been speculated why won't he come forward? he's not part of Trump's staff anymore. is he afraid Evil Lord Trump will stop his Army pension (he can't but that doesn't stop you far lefty's from believing he would)?


remember Walrus face Bolton? sure you do. he was in the room where it happened!


from his "bombshell" dud of a book ..


Quote:
Bolton, a prominent Trump critic, months ago in his memoir The Room Where It Happened. On the canceled trip to Aisne-Marne, Bolton writes:

"On Saturday, I went to the U.S. Ambassador’s residence, where Trump was staying, to brief him for his bilateral with [French President Emmanuel Macron]. The weather was bad and [former Chief of Staff John Kelly] and I spoke about whether to travel as planned to the Chateau-Thierry Belleau Woods monuments and nearby American Cemeteries, where many U.S. World War I were buried. Marine One’s crew were saying that bad visibility could make it imprudent to chopper to the cemetery. The ceiling was not too low for Marines to fly in combat, but flying POTUS was obviously something very different. If a motorcade were necessary, it could take between ninety and a hundred and twenty minutes each way, along roads that were not exactly freeways, posing an unacceptable risk that we could not get the President out of France quickly enough in case of an emergency. It was a straightforward decision to cancel the visit but very hard for a Marine like Kelly to recommend, having originally been the one to suggest Belleau Wood (an iconic battle in Marine Corps history). Trump agreed, and it was decided that others would drive to the cemetery instead."

Bolton continued:

"The press turned canceling the military visit into a story that Trump was afraid of the rain and took glee in pointing out that other world leaders traveled around during the day. Of course, none of them were President of the United States, but the press didn’t understand that rules for US presidents are different from the rules for 190 other leaders who don’t command the world’s greatest military forces."
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And if he thinks our military members and war dead are 'losers' and 'suckers', imagine what he thinks of you gullible saps. Originally Posted by Doove
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  • 09-06-2020, 02:36 PM
McCain wasn't a hero. he never did anything heroic in Vietnam. surviving being captured doesn't make him or anyone else a hero Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Soooooo.......you would agree that being killed doesn't make anyone a hero? Or perhaps you can explain the difference between being captured and being killed, in "hero" terms.



Perhaps we should just cancel Memorial Day and be done with it?
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Doesnt the fact that they're fighting for our country make them heroes?
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Doesnt the fact that they're fighting for our country make them heroes? Originally Posted by 12InchClock
shhhhhh ya n yup. But Doove is trying to put words in another mouth that they did not say.
its better to let it be, and let them play.
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Soooooo.......you would agree that being killed doesn't make anyone a hero? Or perhaps you can explain the difference between being captured and being killed, in "hero" terms.



Perhaps we should just cancel Memorial Day and be done with it? Originally Posted by Doove



“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.”

General George S. Patton
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  • 09-06-2020, 10:06 PM
shhhhhh ya n yup. But Doove is trying to put words in another mouth that they did not say.
its better to let it be, and let them play. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling
What words did i put in anyone's mouth? He said being captured doesn't make anyone a hero. So it would follow that being killed doesn't make anyone a hero. If that's not true, explain how.



I'll wait. And ask 20 times if i have to.
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you are good at that
mmm just 20
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  • 09-07-2020, 02:18 PM
you are good at that
mmm just 20 Originally Posted by offshoredrilling
Read this 4 times. Didn't see an answer. You're nothing if not consistent.
What was the question??
What words did i put in anyone's mouth? He said being captured doesn't make anyone a hero. So it would follow that being killed doesn't make anyone a hero. If that's not true, explain how.



I'll wait. And ask 20 times if i have to. Originally Posted by Doove

Here's your answer doouche, I mean doove:


Don Holleder, a football hero at Aquinas Institute and the United States Military Academy at West Point and one of Rochester’s greatest athletes, died an American hero attempting to rescue wounded soldiers at the Battle of Ong Thanh. He was 33.
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What was the question?? Originally Posted by Paulie Rockstar
wait, He'll ask again
Here's your answer doouche, I mean doove:


Don Holleder, a football hero at Aquinas Institute and the United States Military Academy at West Point and one of Rochester’s greatest athletes, died an American hero attempting to rescue wounded soldiers at the Battle of Ong Thanh. He was 33. Originally Posted by big daddio
yup
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  • 09-08-2020, 04:19 AM
Here's your answer doouche, I mean doove: Originally Posted by big daddio
Clever.


Don Holleder, a football hero at Aquinas Institute and the United States Military Academy at West Point and one of Rochester’s greatest athletes, died an American hero attempting to rescue wounded soldiers at the Battle of Ong Thanh. He was 33.
Another non-answer. People died. No shit. Hell, that's not even a solid effort.



You call *me* a douche.....but i'm not the one calling Don Holleder a sucker or a loser. Nor am i the one claiming getting captured or, by extension, getting killed doesn't make someone a hero.



There *are* some douches in here. I ain't one of 'em. But you'd need to show some intellectual honesty to admit that. Or actually, truly, give a damn about the Don Holleders of the world. You don't.