Captain Crazy blows up the leadership from Iran and that Iranians need to take control of the leadership.. what if they can't? What if the current administration is holds up in a few places to stop an overthrow of the current government?

You people are the dumbest and most hypocritical on the planet.

You loved when the Dems said it but hate Trump for it.

Barack Obama (multiple times, e.g., 2012 debate and speeches): "As long as I'm president, I will not let Iran have nuclear weapons." And on the 2015 JCPOA: "Iran will not have a nuclear weapon" / "we will not allow Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon."

Joe Biden (as president and earlier): "We will not allow Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon" (e.g., 2022 UN address). "Iran will never get a nuclear weapon on my watch" (e.g., meetings with Israeli leaders in 2021–2022).

Hillary Clinton (as candidate/Secretary of State): Variations like "The United States will never allow [Iran] to acquire a nuclear weapon" and readiness to use force if needed.

Bill Clinton era: Emphasized preventing Iran's nuclear ambitions through sanctions/diplomacy, with bipartisan agreement that "Iran must never get a nuclear weapon."
Funny, you're concern is about those limitations in Iran. Meanwhile, the same groups are minimalized here in the USA. We elected the D-Bag to be POTUS here, not there.

TDS- Trump Denial Syndrome.

ICE could do its job without violating the rights of both immigrants and citizens. The fact that you're ok with that tells me all I need to know about you. I would stand up for anyone being oppressed by a government agency and while I don't agree with other countries violations, I cannot affect them. I can here by voting.

Crazy pants who claimed he wouldn't get us into any additional wars, either lied, or is too stupid to realize what he's doing without an exit plan. Unless the plan is simply to distract us from the Epstein files Originally Posted by eyecu2
There’s no comparison for women’s rights in the US vs Iran today.

There’s no comparison for homosexual’s rights in the US vs Iran today.

There’s no comparison for the right to protest in the US vs Iran today.

BUT you attack the US at every turn and support the current Iranian government. Telling.
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You people are the dumbest and most hypocritical on the planet. Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
Who are you talking about specifically?
Who are you talking about specifically? Originally Posted by HDGristle
I'd like to know, as well.
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There’s no comparison for women’s rights in the US vs Iran today.

There’s no comparison for homosexual’s rights in the US vs Iran today.

There’s no comparison for the right to protest in the US vs Iran today.
Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
And are these reasons justification for launching an air, sea, and ground invasion of Iran. Of course not. There are good reasons to invade Iran, destroying a conduit between China and Russia with Iran the middleman being one of them. I just wish the Trump administration would tell us what the actual plan is rather than having sixty percent or more of the country envision a worst case scenario.

BUT you attack the US at every turn and support the current Iranian government. Telling. Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
Just because someone disagrees with Trump’s decision to attack Iran doesn’t mean they support the Iranian regime. To say otherwise is not just wrong but deranged to boot. Please tell us Green Mountain, do you really believe that all democrats are supporters of the Iranian regime? That’s just delusional.
And are these reasons justification for launching an air, sea, and ground invasion of Iran. Of course not. There are good reasons to invade Iran, destroying a conduit between China and Russia with Iran the middleman being one of them. I just wish the Trump administration would tell us what the actual plan is rather than having sixty percent or more of the country envision a worst case scenario.



Just because someone disagrees with Trump’s decision to attack Iran doesn’t mean they support the Iranian regime. To say otherwise is not just wrong but deranged to boot. Please tell us Green Mountain, do you really believe that all democrats are supporters of the Iranian regime? That’s just delusional. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
What plan do you think you are owed that doesn’t compromise intelligence and give Iran a benefit by knowing that information?

Do you believe a nuclear Iran is a good thing and as a state that sponsors terrorism would hesitate to use it?

What I know is the usual suspects in this thread attack what is going on. If Trump did nothing the usual suspects would attack that as well. It’s childish and is the essence of TDS.

Do I think what is happening in Iran is better than doing nothing? Yes.

Do I think a nuclear armed Iran is a good thing? No.

Do I think there’s a real chance to liberate women, homosexuals, Christians in Iran? Yes.

How would you handle it? Sanctions? Negotiation? Let them buy some more time?
Fantastic read about Islam and Iran and how the woke left IMO falls short in being able to differentiate and criticize as appropriate.

https://x.com/DeTahmineh/status/2032...409459298?s=20

Islam has been so aggressively racialized in Western discourse that many people are no longer capable of looking at it as a religion, ideology, or governing system. Instead, it is treated as a kind of ethnic inheritance—something biologically fused to the people associated with it.

This distortion becomes especially obvious in the case of Iran. Iranian civilization did not begin with Islam, and Iranian identity is not reducible to any religion. Yet outsiders routinely speak as though “Iranian” and “Muslim” were naturally synonymous, as if a civilization thousands of years old can simply be collapsed into the religion of foreign people who conquered it after a single battle in 636.

That mistake has real consequences. Once Islam is racialized, criticism of Islam is misread as hatred of a people rather than criticism of a doctrine. Resistance to Islamist rule is then treated as identity confusion. Iranian rejection of the Islamic Republic becomes framed as alienation from “their own culture,” when in reality the opposite is often true: the rejection is rooted in the desire to recover what Islamist rule has spent decades degrading, erasing, or subordinating.

This is the point many people refuse to confront. Islam—especially in its politicized and totalizing forms—has long existed in tension with Iranian civilizational identity. It imposed itself upon an older language, older memory, and older cultural instincts, and demanded submission not only in matters of worship but in law, dress, speech, art, and the structure of public life. The Islamic Republic sharpened this tension by weaponizing Islam as an instrument of state power—turning it into the vocabulary of humiliation, the architecture of censorship, and the justification for violence.

For that reason, it should not surprise anyone that many Iranians are willing to risk their lives resisting Islamist rule. That willingness reflects clarity. People will fight the thing they know is suffocating their nation. They will resist the ideology that has turned beauty into guilt, joy into sin, dissent into heresy, and national life into a hostage chamber.

The Western inability to process this stems from deeply flawed intellectual categories. Christianity is treated as theology, liberalism as ideology, nationalism as doctrine, and Marxism as a political project—all open to criticism and blame. But Islam, within this framework, is treated as identity. Once that happens, criticism becomes taboo and the people living under Islamist regimes become analytically invisible. Their resistance cannot be understood because the framework itself is designed to shield the ideology from scrutiny.

That is why Iranian people so often break Western narratives. Their experience exposes the central error: Islam is not an ethnicity and it is not the inescapable essence of every society it has ruled. It can be rejected, criticized, and resisted—especially when fused to state power.

For many Iranians, Islam is not experienced as sentimental heritage but as conquest extended through law, punishment, and forced piety. It is remembered not as mere faith, but as a structure that has repeatedly demanded the shrinking of Iran into something narrower, sadder, uglier, and more obedient. That is why so many efforts to romanticize Islam as somehow organically identical with Iranian identity ring false, even obscene. They ask a civilization to treat the ideology that has governed and constrained it as the essence of its soul.

A serious analysis of Iran requires abandoning these fraudulent categories. Islam must be treated as what it is: a religion, a set of doctrines, and, in many contexts, a political program with concrete consequences for law, liberty, culture, and power. Once that happens, Iranian resistance becomes perfectly intelligible. The Western discourse that claims to value freedom, dissent, and decolonial analysis, yet suddenly goes blind when the object of critique is Islam.
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Nobody said a nuclear Iran was good, and your boy Trump tore up a treaty on enrichment. Good or bad it was done cause Barry Obama did it. As far as morals and Christians or homosexuals in Iran, that's NOT our fight. We have our own laws here and they have theirs there. You cannot change those laws no matter how bad you hate them or bomb them.

These ppl are religious fanatics just like our Christian Nationalist group here. They don't bomb us for those beliefs and if you think a religious war is the solution, you better read some history. Almost all of those wars were lost due to indoctrination and you can't blow that up.

Trump was not elected to change the world, he was elected to fix the problems in the United States. So far he has been unsuccessful in every attempt to do so, barring closing the borders
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Remember, eye. Some hypocrites were against new foreign wars and the U.S. being the policeman of the world. They wanted us to forget what was going on in Iran because we could just drill, baby, drill and not have to deal with their bullshit.

Those same folks are now back on board with John McCain Bomb, Bomb, Bomb... Bomb, Bomb Iran, which we joked that Trump would do back in 1.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWGFQKDdEiM

Cover is good. OG was better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s5pT3Rris
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Benjamin Netanyahu is missing from the most recent Israeli Security Briefing

Netanyahu usually chairs the Committee.
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VERY interesting. ��

Trump says that many countries will be sending war ships to help keep the Straight of Hormuz clear, especially those who are affected by it.

Who is affected the most? Importers, like China and India, followed by the UK and France.

I’ll be extremely interested to see which nations send warships to help keep the Straight of Hormuz clear, because the more global cooperation Trump is able to recruit, the better the optics. If other nations assist, it will show that Trump was not the only one who wanted the Iranian regime to be eliminated.

https://t.me/bioclandestine/6433
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Fantastic read about Islam and Iran and how the woke left IMO falls short in being able to differentiate and criticize as appropriate.
They can’t be seen to criticize anything but white Christians, especially males, who are at the bottom of their perceived oppression index. Doesn’t matter how many homos they chuck off a building, all is forgiven because they’re not white.
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What plan do you think you are owed that doesn’t compromise intelligence and give Iran a benefit by knowing that information? Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
Well apparently if I donate enough money I’ll get my own security briefing!

This is an email sent out by a Trump linked PAC requesting donations. Please note the incredibly crass image of the President saluting a fallen soldier and the lack of information being used to solicit donations.

A political action committee linked to Donald Trump used a photo of the president saluting a dead soldier’s casket in a fundraising email.

The message, sent Thursday and paid for by Never Surrender Inc., advertises a new “National Security Briefing Membership” and includes multiple donation links. The message included an image of Trump saluting during last week’s dignified transfer ceremony for six U.S. service members who were killed during an Iranian drone attack in Kuwait.

“As a National Security Briefing Member, you'll receive my private national security briefings, unfiltered updates on the threats facing America,” the email reads
https://politicalemails.org/messages/2167888
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Hey txdot, if you send me a small processing fee of $10k we can split $10mil later this month, when my Nigerian prince cousin gets to town.
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DEVELOPING: Iran's new supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, was reportedly flown to Russia for medical treatment after being injured during airstrikes on Tehran, the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida reported. More: bit.ly/3PCKdcQ